Schiit Decrapifier released - USB power isolator

[jimdandy]

 
I got the Wyrd to "even" out my system. OCD that way. It seems it made things more silent. I think it helped the sound a little. I'm using HE-400i with new 2.5mm connectors for the cable. Seems it does more for the sound when using the Vali 2. I'm using a National tube I got from Upscale. 7DJ8 PCC88.

 

[jimdandy]

Using all PYST cables just FYI.

 

[Thenazgul]

Could you guys tell me the order of turning off and on Shiit devices? Do you guys leave it all on 24/7 (multidac).
I guess turning on is = Wyrd > DAC > Amp. 

 

[RickB]

  Could you guys tell me the order of turning off and on Shiit devices? Do you guys leave it all on 24/7 (multidac).
I guess turning on is = Wyrd > DAC > Amp. 

You can leave the Wyrd and DAC on (Schiit recommends leaving DACs on) and amps are generally turned off. If you have solid state, you could leave the amp on too if you chose, but definitely turn off tube amps when not in use.

 

[ginetto61]

Hi and sorry if i jump in with a question.
I did read most of this very interesting thread but did not find a straight answer.

• Does the Wyrd provide galvanic isolation ?
• Does it decrease the jitter ?

From what i understand these are the two main issues with usb signal transmission.
Thanks a lot
Bye, gino

 

[RickB]

  Hi and sorry if i jump in with a question.
I did read most of this very interesting thread but did not find a straight answer.

• Does the Wyrd provide galvanic isolation ?
• Does it decrease the jitter ?

From what i understand these are the two main issues with usb signal transmission.
Thanks a lot
Bye, gino

It doesn't provide galvanic isolation.

 

[ginetto61]

It doesn't provide galvanic isolation.

 
Hi thanks !
To be perfectly honest i do not even know what galvanic isolation really means,
But i like this device a lot indeed even just as an external USB power supply.
Morevoer i see some circuit inside that should decrease the signal jitter.

 
Unfortunately i have not been able to find any lab reports showing the effects of this device on a jittery signal ... that would be interesting.
Thanks a lot again
gino

 

[RickB]

   
Hi thanks !
To be perfectly honest i do not even know what galvanic isolation really means,
But i like this device a lot indeed even just as an external USB power supply.
Morevoer i see some circuit inside that should decrease the signal jitter.

 
Unfortunately i have not been able to find any lab reports showing the effects of this device on a jittery signal ... that would be interesting.
Thanks a lot again
gino

 
Galvanic isolation means that it would prevent ground loops-- a humming or buzzing sound you would hear in the amp.

 

[ginetto61]

 

Galvanic isolation means that it would prevent ground loops-- a humming or buzzing sound you would hear in the amp.

 
Hi and thanks a lot for the very kind and valuable reply.
This is unfortunate because i like the idea of galvanic isolation between pc and dac a lot. 
Still i love this device.  I have a nice little Magni 2 that i love as well.
Problem is that here in Europe the cost is double.
Thanks again,   gino

 

[RickB]

   
Hi and thanks a lot for the very kind and valuable reply.
This is unfortunate because i like the idea of galvanic isolation between pc and dac a lot. 
Still i love this device.  I have a nice little Magni 2 that i love as well.
Problem is that here in Europe the cost is double.
Thanks again,   gino

 
You're welcome.

 

[maul]

It really is interesting what the Wyrd does to the sound, there is absolutely a difference, although it is on a smaller scale obviously. Thing is, I'm not entirely sure if it's positive at this point, it's just different. It certainly affects the treble, and it's hard to explain how - it takes the edge off, but at the same time doesn't make things sound darker exactly. At first I thought it was removing detail, but I don't believe that's the case anymore. Things do seem to be more open/deeper with a bit more space around the instruments. (These observations were made before looking at other opinions, seems they match up for the most part)
 
It makes you wonder if the Wyrd is cleaning up the signal to be more accurate, or if it is coloring the sound. Whatever it is doing, there is a difference, and I've went back and forth so many times to try to determine if I prefer it or not. Haven't made up my mind yet, but I would definitely like to get the USB Regen to compare. My instincts kind of tell me that the Bifrost might be doing a better job than the $99 Wyrd at processing the signal, it sounds a bit more clear and sharp without the Wyrd. I don't know enough about the technical aspects however, I'd be curious to hear from someone who does.
 
Edit: I also want to note that it did not fix the static pop sounds when playing/pausing the Bifrost using Wasapi/ASIO (problem is mainly with Wasapi though).

 

[Thenazgul]

  It really is interesting what the Wyrd does to the sound, there is absolutely a difference, although it is on a smaller scale obviously. Thing is, I'm not entirely sure if it's positive at this point, it's just different. It certainly affects the treble, and it's hard to explain how - it takes the edge off, but at the same time doesn't make things sound darker exactly. At first I thought it was removing detail, but I don't believe that's the case anymore. Things do seem to be more open/deeper with a bit more space around the instruments. (These observations were made before looking at other opinions, seems they match up for the most part)
 
It makes you wonder if the Wyrd is cleaning up the signal to be more accurate, or if it is coloring the sound. Whatever it is doing, there is a difference, and I've went back and forth so many times to try to determine if I prefer it or not. Haven't made up my mind yet, but I would definitely like to get the USB Regen to compare. My instincts kind of tell me that the Bifrost might be doing a better job than the $99 Wyrd at processing the signal, it sounds a bit more clear and sharp without the Wyrd. I don't know enough about the technical aspects however, I'd be curious to hear from someone who does.
 
Edit: I also want to note that it did not fix the static pop sounds when playing/pausing the Bifrost using Wasapi/ASIO (problem is mainly with Wasapi though).

You mean a clicking sound while pausing and playing? That is normal. I have no issues with my BiFrost multibit using Wasapi using Tidal and HQplayer. 

 

[maul]

  You mean a clicking sound while pausing and playing? That is normal. I have no issues with my BiFrost multibit using Wasapi using Tidal and HQplayer. 

 
No, an actual static audio sound, also when plugging/unplugging usb and starting the computer. With wasapi it's the worst, having some static popping for a few seconds after starting each song - only in event mode though, interestingly. No issues with other dacs. Other people have reported it as well, I believe it's specific to the 4490, not the multibit. It's manageable however using wasapi push or ASIO (not nearly as bad, still have the static when connecting/disconnecting usb or starting the computer though obviously). Someone said the 4490 is very touchy when it comes to usb ports, and changing them might solve the problem - although I haven't that success.

 

[castleofargh]

 I was under the impression that unless the DAC manufacturer clearly stated the DAC was made to support event mode, push should be used instead.

 

[maul]

   I was under the impression that unless the DAC manufacturer clearly stated the DAC was made to support event mode, push should be used instead.

 
Modern dacs should have no problem with event mode, and as I said I've never had any issues with dacs doing this before (other people have had the 4490 do the same thing)... and it doesn't just happen in event mode, that's just the worst out of all the instances. Sigh