[ToTo Man]

Bifrost Multibit has an internal upsampling that sounds better than the Windows upsampling the files. If you feed the DAC with 192 Khz, you bypass the internal filter and now you're using it in NOS mode. Whether the NOS mode sounds better to you is a matter of personal taste

 But feeding it 24/44.1kHz instead of 16/44.1kHz isn't upsampling.

 

[RickB]

I use Windows and have it set to 24/192. Then I just use JRMC in exclusive mode (WASAPI) and it handles everything. If it's 16/44.1, that's what gets sent to the DAC. If it's 24/96 (I don't think I have anything higher), then that gets sent.

 

[theveterans]

 But feeding it 24/44.1kHz instead of 16/44.1kHz isn't upsampling.

It's up to you IMO. Try listening to your reference tracks without upsampling. Then compare it with Windows upsampling. IMO, I prefer the internal filter to upsample the way Schiit intended

 

[520RanchBro]

It's up to you IMO. Try listening to your reference tracks without upsampling. Then compare it with Windows upsampling. IMO, I prefer the internal filter to upsample the way Schiit intended

I would imagine Schiit put more work into it than MS would for Windows. So if I set Jriver to upsample to 24/192, I'd be in NOS mode? Or only if the native file is 24/192? But this is only the multibit right? I have a John Coltrane album in 24/192 because I was curious, it sounds great! Don't know how much the extra sample rate and bit depth helped.
 
Have also read that sometimes the converter is the reason for the sound quality improvement, less so the actual bit depth/sample rate. I would assume the Bifrost acts a converter and maybe its an especially well implemented one along with all of its other great qualities.

 

[audiojun]

If you upsampled to 176.4khz (44.1khz multiples) or 192khz (48khz multiples) it will be in nos mode by passing the Schiit internal upsampling filters.

Schiit dacs already have good upsampling filters bypassing it might not yield better results, coltmrfire says it does though, try it both ways and decide for yourself.

 

[Thenazgul]

to sum it up. It is better to set it at 44/16? The dac is connected by usb btw.

 

[Thenazgul]

If you upsampled to 176.4khz (44.1khz multiples) or 192khz (48khz multiples) it will be in nos mode by passing the Schiit internal upsampling filters.

Schiit dacs already have good upsampling filters bypassing it might not yield better results, coltmrfire says it does though, try it both ways and decide for yourself.

to sum it up, 44/16 is the best? Connected by USB

 

[ToTo Man]

  to sum it up. It is better to set it at 44/16? The dac is connected by usb btw.

I think a few prior posts have created some confusion.  As I understand it, if you are playing a 44/16 file, it should not matter if you set your computer output at 44/16 or 44/24 because the sample rate hasn't changed, only the bit-depth, which is effectively ignored because the extra 8 bits in this instance are simply padded zeroes and should have no effect on the DAC's processing.  That's what I was told anyway a few years ago, maybe the MB DACs are affected differently.  
 
FYI - I use A+ as my music player on a Mac and it changes the sample rate and bit-depth automatically depending on the source file played to maintain a bit-perfect output with no oversampling/resampling, and it always sends 16-bit files to my DAC as 24-bit.  e.g. 44/16 and 48/16 is always sent to my DAC as 44/24 and 48/24.

 

[listen4joy]

hey, i config the bifrost uber2,(not multibit), and it dont have ASIO, only  wasapi , how can i add asio?

 

[theveterans]

hey, i config the bifrost uber2,(not multibit), and it dont have ASIO, only  wasapi , how can i add asio?

Use a program that supports ASIO then you will get "ASIO for Generic USB"

 

[listen4joy]

anyone know how to config bifrsot in WASPI in jriver? 

 

[landroni]

If you upsampled to 176.4khz (44.1khz multiples) or 192khz (48khz multiples) it will be in nos mode by passing the Schiit internal upsampling filters.

Schiit dacs already have good upsampling filters bypassing it might not yield better results, coltmrfire says it does though, try it both ways and decide for yourself.

This is only true for Bifrost Multibit, so NOT for the Bifrost 4490.
 
If you have 176.4/192 kHz material, the 4490 will pass this to the DS chip and it will oversample the hell out of it and then produce sound. It's only with the Bifrost MB that 176.4/192 kHz material is passed into NOS mode (i.e. as-is, bit-perfect with no monkey business) to the R2R chip...

 

[theveterans]

Have you guys compared the Coax and Schiit USB Gen 2?

 

[Thenazgul]

Does anyone know if the driver provided on a automatic Windows Update install also includes ASIO?
it seems the Schiit Gen2 V1.03 driver does have ASIO embedded. Well I see a couple of Asio files in the installer.
Could someone confirm that the standard driver (plug and play one) also has ASIO?
If not? I have to remove that KB-update? And install V1.03 instead?

 

[theveterans]

The ASIO should come with the drivers. BTW, it's called "ASIO for Generic USB Device"