Schiit Audio Bifrost 2
Apr 12, 2021 at 5:36 PM Post #1,861 of 4,939
Thanks for feedback, Neweymatt.
Looking at the USB A-B PYST cable on Schiit site. So would connect his to Apple CCK cable to back of Bifrost2 - got it.

Re my work set up. In finance/accounting without much foot traffic. Have cleaning company clean office nightly. Cleaners known to have sticky fingers - stuff disappears. Considering repurposing a camera gear bag to tote the headphones, dac and amp back and forth to work. That amp and dac are about 9x6x2 so not huge. Work has switched to Microsoft Teams phone so all calls coming to cell phone - the Cisco desk phone going away. So when call comes in, need to disconnect phone from CCK cable and pick up call. Looking to get new phone, may get latest Iphone 12 and use current IPhone 8plus for music, 64 Gig.
If I were in your shoes, I'd be seriously considering a USB dongle DAC. Something that just gets me 80% of the way there for decently driving my cans at work, without a worry of wear and tear, and having to pack them up every trip to and from the office. I've been down that road before, and it got old. :)
 
Apr 12, 2021 at 5:41 PM Post #1,862 of 4,939
I just had to send my BF2 back to Schiit. Heard a loud "pop" in my right ear when using RCA output. Then, the right channel was crazy distorted (left channel seemed fine).

Swapping to XLR, all is normal there. When swapping inputs on the BF2 while in RCA, I heard a 'pop' everytime the relay kicked in from source to source. Didn't hear that with the XLR output either.

Not sure what happened, but it wasn't great. Fortunately, I don't think my headphone driver was damaged. I'm guessing my headamp coupling caps probably blocked any potential harmful DC from reaching the driver.

Never experienced something like this from one of their DACs before. Curious to hear what they say during the repair. I'm also curious how long it'll take for them to get around to it, given how insanely busy they've been recently.

I don't feel like lugging my Yggy GS to my desktop from my 2 channel setup, so whipping out my Dragonfly Red for backup duty. It's actually quite decent as a standalone DAC. :)
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 12:59 AM Post #1,863 of 4,939
I just had to send my BF2 back to Schiit. Heard a loud "pop" in my right ear when using RCA output. Then, the right channel was crazy distorted (left channel seemed fine).

Swapping to XLR, all is normal there. When swapping inputs on the BF2 while in RCA, I heard a 'pop' everytime the relay kicked in from source to source. Didn't hear that with the XLR output either.

Not sure what happened, but it wasn't great. Fortunately, I don't think my headphone driver was damaged. I'm guessing my headamp coupling caps probably blocked any potential harmful DC from reaching the driver.

Never experienced something like this from one of their DACs before. Curious to hear what they say during the repair. I'm also curious how long it'll take for them to get around to it, given how insanely busy they've been recently.

I don't feel like lugging my Yggy GS to my desktop from my 2 channel setup, so whipping out my Dragonfly Red for backup duty. It's actually quite decent as a standalone DAC. :)
This sounds scary. Did it happen during the listening session or when you turned it on? I don’t want to damage my expensive headphones due to DAC
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 11:57 AM Post #1,864 of 4,939
Well after much debate I decided to join the BF2 lovers club, :joy:

Placed my order on the 6th, got my shipping notice today!! So 7 total days including a weekend! Must be getting caught up on their orders. Very excited to see how this compares to all my other dac's, and also enjoy a new experience with another great Schiit product!

Cheers
 
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Apr 13, 2021 at 12:49 PM Post #1,865 of 4,939
This sounds scary. Did it happen during the listening session or when you turned it on? I don’t want to damage my expensive headphones due to DAC
Everything was already powered on and listening. I was testing some RCA cables (with XLR also inserted). Maybe something didn't like me swapping between the two every 10 seconds? Lol either way, I've had three DAC for over a year now with no issues. I'm guessing it was a pretty unique issue. Maybe I had a static discharge when adjusting the switch on my head amp? Not sure.
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 1:21 PM Post #1,866 of 4,939
I am back in the owner club as well! Ordered one yesterday, hoping to get it soon. My launch unit had some minor cosmetic/noise issues so I ended up returning for a refund. Have regretted not simply getting a replacement ever since. I remember the differences between it and a delta-sigma DAC not being earth-shattering BUT significant enough to be audible. The Bifrost 2 had better drum (cymbal, hi-hat) transients and slightly less 2-dimensional soundstage.

I also have to admit that I went through a temporary phase where I got swayed by the measurement fad and wanted to have the best measuring DAC possible. I will still be keeping my Atom DAC for when I am in the mood for a great sounding D/S AKM velvet sound DAC.

Despite the recent measurement-group propaganda that all DACs sound exactly the same, there are subtle differences in sound between AKM, ESS, Cirrus Logic and Schiit Multibit chips. The differences are measurable as well if you know what to measure, mainly the DAC reconstruction filter response.
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 1:21 PM Post #1,867 of 4,939
Everything was already powered on and listening. I was testing some RCA cables (with XLR also inserted). Maybe something didn't like me swapping between the two every 10 seconds? Lol either way, I've had three DAC for over a year now with no issues. I'm guessing it was a pretty unique issue. Maybe I had a static discharge when adjusting the switch on my head amp? Not sure.
May be removing or inserting RCA plus with DAC AND amp connected and powered on did something
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 1:47 PM Post #1,868 of 4,939
I am back in the owner club as well! Ordered one yesterday, hoping to get it soon. My launch unit had some minor cosmetic/noise issues so I ended up returning for a refund. Have regretted not simply getting a replacement ever since. I remember the differences between it and a delta-sigma DAC not being earth-shattering BUT significant enough to be audible. The Bifrost 2 had better drum (cymbal, hi-hat) transients and slightly less 2-dimensional soundstage.

I also have to admit that I went through a temporary phase where I got swayed by the measurement fad and wanted to have the best measuring DAC possible. I will still be keeping my Atom DAC for when I am in the mood for a great sounding D/S AKM velvet sound DAC.

Despite the recent measurement-group propaganda that all DACs sound exactly the same, there are subtle differences in sound between AKM, ESS, Cirrus Logic and Schiit Multibit chips. The differences are measurable as well if you know what to measure, mainly the DAC reconstruction filter response.
Welcome back to the club. We all go thru this phase and then come back. It's all part of learning and enjoying music along the way.
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 1:49 PM Post #1,869 of 4,939
I am back in the owner club as well! Ordered one yesterday, hoping to get it soon. My launch unit had some minor cosmetic/noise issues so I ended up returning for a refund. Have regretted not simply getting a replacement ever since. I remember the differences between it and a delta-sigma DAC not being earth-shattering BUT significant enough to be audible. The Bifrost 2 had better drum (cymbal, hi-hat) transients and slightly less 2-dimensional soundstage.

I also have to admit that I went through a temporary phase where I got swayed by the measurement fad and wanted to have the best measuring DAC possible. I will still be keeping my Atom DAC for when I am in the mood for a great sounding D/S AKM velvet sound DAC.

Despite the recent measurement-group propaganda that all DACs sound exactly the same, there are subtle differences in sound between AKM, ESS, Cirrus Logic and Schiit Multibit chips. The differences are measurable as well if you know what to measure, mainly the DAC reconstruction filter response.
Completely agree with you, and I think I've been down the same path! Maybe more than once!! Somehow I keep finding my passion for adding some type of Tube into the mix told me that instead of going the RME route, and rather go down the Schittr!!

I myself have had similar thoughts regarding different chips, and the chips are transparent yada yada talk, However...

I have this one dac from Xduoo, a TA10 R that has an AKM with what they called "Velvet" forgive me as it escapes me right now. And I love the sound of that one. When using headphones it runs thru the tube buffer, but using analog out it doesn't.

So I'm relieved I'm not the only one thats been down that road... Hopefully this will be my last dac for awhile, getting crowded up in here.. :joy:
 
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Apr 13, 2021 at 1:53 PM Post #1,870 of 4,939
I’m not really sure what is going on. I ordered mine almost a month ago. Product page said and still says In Stock 7-10 days. I’ve sent an email asking politely for an update 5 days ago and no one has responded to me. What’s the deal?

I don’t care if there are delays let’s just be up front about it and maybe answer customer emails. Also it’s not that hard to update the website. “In Stock” is clearly misleading
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 1:56 PM Post #1,871 of 4,939
I’m not really sure what is going on. I ordered mine almost a month ago. Product page said and still says In Stock 7-10 days. I’ve sent an email asking politely for an update 5 days ago and no one has responded to me. What’s the deal?

I don’t care if there are delays let’s just be up front about it and maybe answer customer emails. Also it’s not that hard to update the website. “In Stock” is clearly misleading
There's a phone number to call if you'd like to try, just click on the directions to us link in the contact page
 
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Apr 13, 2021 at 2:09 PM Post #1,873 of 4,939
Completely agree with you, and I think I've been down the same path! Maybe more than once!! Somehow I keep finding my passion for adding some type of Tube into the mix told me that instead of going the RME route, and rather go down the Schittr!!

I myself have had similar thoughts regarding different chips, and the chips are transparent yada yada talk, However...

I have this one dac from Xduoo, a TA10 R that has an AKM with what they called "Velvet" forgive me as it escapes me right now. And I love the sound of that one. When using headphones it runs thru the tube buffer, but using analog out it doesn't.

So I'm relieved I'm not the only one thats been down that road... Hopefully this will be my last dac for awhile, getting crowded up in here.. :joy:
Don't even get me started with the tube-rolling. I have been there and done that multiple times. I am not willing to go back there since I realized that there is too much that depends on any specific tube, so you never know if you are actually getting the sound that the designer intended. If I do go down that road ever again it would be just for schiits and giggles - something totally over the top like the upcoming Schiit 10-tube amp. In addition to this, I absolutely love my Asgard 3 and I honestly have no reason to even consider changing it.
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 2:15 PM Post #1,874 of 4,939
Don't even get me started with the tube-rolling. I have been there and done that multiple times. I am not willing to go back there since I realized that there is too much that depends on any specific tube, so you never know if you are actually getting the sound that the designer intended. If I do go down that road ever again it would be just for schiits and giggles - something totally over the top like the upcoming Schiit 10-tube amp. In addition to this, I absolutely love my Asgard 3 and I honestly have no reason to even consider changing it.
Once again, 100 percent correct! Thankfully I have a few tube based products I'm completely happy with, and add them in as I feel like it. I know what to expect from them, and have found a few new production tubes that fit what I like so as I will try some tubes here and there, I can always drag myself back from the edge of Tube insanity..LMAO
 
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Apr 13, 2021 at 2:20 PM Post #1,875 of 4,939
Yeah I’d definitely give them a call if you haven’t heard back...I ordered a BF2 on April 3rd and just got a shipping notification today.
Of course no one picked up lol. Store hours are Thurs-Sun... May I ask what finish you got? I ordered a couple pyst cables with mine. That would make me really angry if a cheap cable held up my $850 order. I’d obviously rather have the DAC immediately and worry about some crappy cables later
 

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