Schiit Audio Bifrost 2
Apr 13, 2021 at 2:25 PM Post #1,876 of 4,957
Of course no one picked up lol. Store hours are Thurs-Sun... May I ask what finish you got? I ordered a couple pyst cables with mine. That would make me really angry if a cheap cable held up my $850 order. I’d obviously rather have the DAC immediately and worry about some crappy cables later
Haha of course. I got a black one and it was the only thing in my order, so I’m not sure if that made a difference.
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 2:36 PM Post #1,877 of 4,957
Apr 13, 2021 at 2:38 PM Post #1,878 of 4,957
Of course no one picked up lol. Store hours are Thurs-Sun... May I ask what finish you got? I ordered a couple pyst cables with mine. That would make me really angry if a cheap cable held up my $850 order. I’d obviously rather have the DAC immediately and worry about some crappy cables later
I ordered Black, most of my other pieces of schiit are Black.
 
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Apr 13, 2021 at 3:00 PM Post #1,880 of 4,957
I am back in the owner club as well! Ordered one yesterday, hoping to get it soon. My launch unit had some minor cosmetic/noise issues so I ended up returning for a refund. Have regretted not simply getting a replacement ever since. I remember the differences between it and a delta-sigma DAC not being earth-shattering BUT significant enough to be audible. The Bifrost 2 had better drum (cymbal, hi-hat) transients and slightly less 2-dimensional soundstage.

I also have to admit that I went through a temporary phase where I got swayed by the measurement fad and wanted to have the best measuring DAC possible. I will still be keeping my Atom DAC for when I am in the mood for a great sounding D/S AKM velvet sound DAC.

Despite the recent measurement-group propaganda that all DACs sound exactly the same, there are subtle differences in sound between AKM, ESS, Cirrus Logic and Schiit Multibit chips. The differences are measurable as well if you know what to measure, mainly the DAC reconstruction filter response.
My Bifrost also had a slight cosmetic issue, they offered an exchange or B-stock discount, I took the discount. With the way the shipping industry is right now, it did not seem worth it doing an exchange.
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 3:14 PM Post #1,881 of 4,957

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Apr 13, 2021 at 3:33 PM Post #1,882 of 4,957
If I were in your shoes, I'd be seriously considering a USB dongle DAC. Something that just gets me 80% of the way there for decently driving my cans at work, without a worry of wear and tear, and having to pack them up every trip to and from the office. I've been down that road before, and it got old. :)
You got me to thinking...
I found a Sentry Safe Desktop Safe for about 60. 13 inches Deep by 17 wide by 5.8 height. Enough room for amp, dac and cables will take headphones home/leave in car. Still have to unpack and put away each day- with that wear and tear. so dongle may be reality. Thanks for heads up.
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 3:36 PM Post #1,883 of 4,957
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Apr 13, 2021 at 4:07 PM Post #1,885 of 4,957
I see you have a pi with volumio and a Mac mini with Audirvana (which is what I have). Is the sound off the end of a Bifrost 2 really that much better with the Pi and Volumio or does the Bifrost2 somehow take care of a lot of source streamer anomalies?
My BF2 is not here yet, only ordered last week, should be here soon, I can answer that in due course though. As an update I have been using Roon almost exclusively now as it seemed to solve quite a few of the non sound related issues I was running into with so many pieces of equipment,lol

I brought it on myself....
 
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Apr 13, 2021 at 7:15 PM Post #1,886 of 4,957
You got me to thinking...
I found a Sentry Safe Desktop Safe for about 60. 13 inches Deep by 17 wide by 5.8 height. Enough room for amp, dac and cables will take headphones home/leave in car. Still have to unpack and put away each day- with that wear and tear. so dongle may be reality. Thanks for heads up.
Yeah, it would be a bit of a pain to have to unpack and pack up the larger Schiit stack every day. Maybe instead of the separate BF2, you could get one of the DAC cards for the Jot? Then it's just the one device to mess around with.

A dongle-DAC like AQ Dragonfly or EarMen would be the ultimate portable solution for you, but may not drive all headphones that well.

Maybe a better option to consider is the transportable-type devices from iFi like their iDSD Black Label or Diablo.
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 8:16 PM Post #1,887 of 4,957
The head honcho on the site that shall not be named pretty much stated that the Bifrost only required 24 hours of warm-up to sound its best, but I had a different experience. Though my new Bifrost still sounded amazing (compared to Modi Multibit) after 24 hours, after 5 days of being powered on and listening to music with it for roughly 6 hours each day, I had an experience where the sound became very "focused" and dialed in. After 24 hours, listening to Radiohead's Amnesiac (an album I'm very familiar with), it sounded like it was missing air and the imaging was blurry. After 5 days, I listened to the album again and the air was present and the trippy awesome imaging that I associate with Amnesiac was back in all its glory.

As always, how much of this was hardware burn-in and how much was mental burn-in, I'm not sure. All I can say is my experience of the sound definitely changed after 5 days.
 
Apr 13, 2021 at 9:43 PM Post #1,888 of 4,957
I just had to send my BF2 back to Schiit. Heard a loud "pop" in my right ear when using RCA output. Then, the right channel was crazy distorted (left channel seemed fine).

Swapping to XLR, all is normal there. When swapping inputs on the BF2 while in RCA, I heard a 'pop' everytime the relay kicked in from source to source. Didn't hear that with the XLR output either.

Not sure what happened, but it wasn't great. Fortunately, I don't think my headphone driver was damaged. I'm guessing my headamp coupling caps probably blocked any potential harmful DC from reaching the driver.

Never experienced something like this from one of their DACs before. Curious to hear what they say during the repair. I'm also curious how long it'll take for them to get around to it, given how insanely busy they've been recently.

I don't feel like lugging my Yggy GS to my desktop from my 2 channel setup, so whipping out my Dragonfly Red for backup duty. It's actually quite decent as a standalone DAC. :)
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Apr 14, 2021 at 12:13 AM Post #1,889 of 4,957
The head honcho on the site that shall not be named pretty much stated that the Bifrost only required 24 hours of warm-up to sound its best, but I had a different experience. Though my new Bifrost still sounded amazing (compared to Modi Multibit) after 24 hours, after 5 days of being powered on and listening to music with it for roughly 6 hours each day, I had an experience where the sound became very "focused" and dialed in. After 24 hours, listening to Radiohead's Amnesiac (an album I'm very familiar with), it sounded like it was missing air and the imaging was blurry. After 5 days, I listened to the album again and the air was present and the trippy awesome imaging that I associate with Amnesiac was back in all its glory.

As always, how much of this was hardware burn-in and how much was mental burn-in, I'm not sure. All I can say is my experience of the sound definitely changed after 5 days.
I had the same experience with both the bifrost2 and jot2
 
Apr 14, 2021 at 1:20 AM Post #1,890 of 4,957
I see you have a pi with volumio and a Mac mini with Audirvana (which is what I have). Is the sound off the end of a Bifrost 2 really that much better with the Pi and Volumio or does the Bifrost2 somehow take care of a lot of source streamer anomalies?
Yeah, I'm keen to understand if a dedicated RPi streamer to the Bifrost2 would be better than USB from my Mac?

I had some concerns about this before getting the BF2, but thought I'd just wait and see/hear for myself.

I've been very happy with USB from my mac and/or iPhone to the BF2, but now that it's been 6 months, I'm again curious if there is any upgrade to be had with a dedicated Pi streamer using Coax to the BF2...
 

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