[bboris77]

I’m thinking of picking this up for both music and gaming but can’t decide between the two DAC modules. I emailed Schiit and they said that the MB one has latency and might not be the best choice for games. Is that correct? I could use some recommendations. Thanks!

I am actually very surprised that Schiit would say that their Multibit technology has latency significant enough to affect gaming. I would love to know what the actual figure is in milliseconds. I know that my monitor has 10ms of input lag so anything less than that would be totally irrelevant. I have had the Bifrost Multibit for a long time and have been gaming very extensively on it using the optical input and have never noticed absolutely any sync issues.

I have an app on my iPhone called "CathchinSync" which is designed to measure latency by measuring the offset between video and audio. Since I have a D/S DAC at home as well I can see if there are any differences in latency between it and my Bifrost Multibit. I will report back to you guys.

 

[Jason Stoddard]

I am actually very surprised that Schiit would say that their Multibit technology has latency significant enough to affect gaming. I would love to know what the actual figure is in milliseconds. I know that my monitor has 10ms of input lag so anything less than that would be totally irrelevant. I have had the Bifrost Multibit for a long time and have been gaming very extensively on it using the optical input and have never noticed absolutely any sync issues.

I have an app on my iPhone called "CathchinSync" which is designed to measure latency by measuring the offset between video and audio. Since I have a D/S DAC at home as well I can see if there are any differences in latency between it and my Bifrost Multibit. I will report back to you guys.

Our guys are probably being cautious, because we've never measured latency for the True Multibit products. There's probably nothing significant to worry about, even with the bigger digital filters on Bifrost 2 and up. If I find some time, I'll measure it.

 

[Jason Stoddard]

Slow day, so I calculated it: 23ms for the big boys (Bifrost 2 on up) and 11ms for the card and Modi Multibit.

 

[Mani ATH 87]

Slow day, so I calculated it: 23ms for the big boys (Bifrost 2 on up) and 11ms for the card and Modi Multibit.

Thanks for sharing that info - 23ms is not ideal but I doubt 11ms would have any real noticible impact. Then again, I'm certainly no pro gamer it's all casual for me.

 

[HifiRED]

Slow day, so I calculated it: 23ms for the big boys (Bifrost 2 on up) and 11ms for the card and Modi Multibit.

Thanks for that info! If I’m understanding this correctly the Asgard 3 with MB would have a latency of 23ms versus 11ms with the DS?

 

[Mani ATH 87]

Thanks for that info! If I’m understanding this correctly the Asgard 3 with MB would have a latency of 23ms versus 11ms with the DS?

The Asgard 3 is the card so it would be 11ms.

 

[HifiRED]

The Asgard 3 is the card so it would be 11ms.

Gotcha, so I’m guessing the DS would be even lower and more neutral sounding?

 

[JohnnyCanuck]

Slow day, so I calculated it: 23ms for the big boys (Bifrost 2 on up) and 11ms for the card and Modi Multibit.

Can you provide times for the AKM4490 as used in your plug-in cards? Just for reference.

JC

 

[Mani ATH 87]

Gotcha, so I’m guessing the DS would be even lower and more neutral sounding?

Maybe Jason will provide the latency numbers, I can't say for certain. As for it being more neutral sounding, I don't really feel like DACs have a great impact on sound signature. Amps can color sound a bit but DACs are mostly about the quality of signal that's being provided to the amp. DACs can effect sound in terms of distortion, noise floor, jitter, latency (as this discussion goes) etc. It shouldn't really color the sound in any meaningful way though.

 

[rets34]

Got my Asgard 3 today may not stack properly, but I've already re-wired everything to accommodate it's size. Must say so far, loving more than my Magni 3.

 

[caenlenfromOCN]

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Got my Asgard 3 today may not stack properly, but I've already re-wired everything to accommodate it's size. Must say so far, loving more than my Magni 3.

it's definitely an upgrade over magni 3!!!! well done your knob looks shinier than mine...

 

[caenlenfromOCN]

I think I maybe got a knob that wasn't polished... it's dull... doesn't look like that guys knob at all :/

 

[Rattle]

Pretty sure all silver amps come with polished silver knob, black amps come with matte gray/silver

 

[genck]

bust out the dremel

 

[caenlenfromOCN]

ah ok i did not realize that, heh