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Sabaj D5: the DAC that is unquestionably a digital to analog converter

Discussion in 'Dedicated Source Components' started by Dadbeh, Apr 6, 2019.
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  1. Baten
    I feel your displeasure with that kind of sht, but I feel like this kinda thing is here to stay sorry to say. It seems to mostly appeal/sell to "grown up men" in the first place! I just don't follow Zeos' videos at all anymore, his advice on headphones is sht and on amp/dacs even worse....
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2019
  2. adanac061
    Got a D5 coming tommorow. My first big purchase in a looonggg time. I'm hoping it's my end game dac then i can focus on end game headphones. I'm using a neat little es9028 dac at the moment.
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  3. adanac061
    Well, it arrrived but .... i forgot to buy a 1/8 to 1/4 adapter so can't listen tonight .. :frowning2:

    as a side note.. it is larger than i imagined. gonna have to get a new desk
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2019
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  4. Dadbeh
    there should be one wn the box for pretty much every headphone you buy
  5. adanac061
    i know mate and iv'e had millions of them in the past but not tonight.
    Anyway .. Things not getting off to a good start.. the rca line out is very noisey connecting to a pair of mackie powered monitors.
    i'm really hoping this is the fault of the cable i happen to have at this time...
  6. Dadbeh
    Go into the menu and change the output from Headphone to line out
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2019
  7. adanac061
    Well i finally got a 1/8 to 1/4 adapter and ..wow just wow.. the detail of the 9038pro has to be heard to be believed.
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  8. AlexDeLarge
    Agreed, for the few reviews I have been able to find on this unit think it's underrated.
  9. adanac061
    The owner of audioscience review site told me this morning that they have a d5 coming thier way after i offered to send mine for measurement.
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  10. Researcher

    I am expecting very good scores as regards its DAC portion.
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  11. wushuliu
    The scores are worthless. The measurer himself does not put much stock in subjective evaluation and cannot hear differences between DACs, even the ones that measure poorly, unless there is something really wrong. Which, of course, is the main point of doing measurements - to check if there is something *wrong*. So the bizarre cultism of following those scores doesn't even make sense based on the logic of the measurer. It's just ranking for the sake of ranking. I hope people realize that if you go through all those reviews and measurements that *objectively* a $100 DAC like a Sabaj or SMSL/Topping gives you the same performance as a $1500 Dac. And that to notice any difference would mean one can differentiate between extremely low noise and jitter numbers - which requires extraordinary proof (again, this is based on the rationale of the measurer himself).
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2019
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  12. Baten
    I'm with this rationale honestly. I mean I loved the sound of the Holo spring NOS DAC. Right now waiting on a TDA1541A DAC to arrive. These are both special dacs that give a colored sound due to design and NOS.

    But given a modern, well made and well designed delta sigma DAC? You'd be splitting hairs hearing any difference.

    I'm also with the idea that the 126dB SNR Holo spring will sound better than the rather low spec Airist R-2R. Measurements even matter with the more coloured DACs...

    Going way off topic of course. But measurements can be very helpful to determine how well a device is made, even if it's meant to sound different.
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2019
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  13. Researcher

    I am quite sorry to say you are highly likely to be wrong. For instance, hifi equipments with high distortion can often be assumed to provide wide soundstage. DFR is very good example to this. On the other hand, many claim that AUDIOGD is well suitable source to hd600. Audiogd is very poor scoring device at measurements. If you have a bitch pair of headphones like MrSpeaker Flow, which is quite revealing many thing(bad/perfect audio file, bad connection, low engineered Dac like DFR or low engineered amp like Audiogd), you will immediately notice the difference between them. The imaging capabilities of the headphones is a key factor only at mid range. Hi end headphones are quite source hungry, often regardless of how well their imaging is.
  14. Dadbeh
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