[gimmeheadroom]

Fun stuff, with RME if you have high impedance headphones, use xlr. I a/b RCA VS XLR (to SA-1) with my ADX5000 and there is a difference in low end, slightly more dynamic presentation. Midrange and treble showd no difference and initially i tought that there is no difference. RCA has 100Ω impedance and XLR has 200Ω so there might be the reason for mor energy in the low end. I dont believe that this is due to cable quality and if both were 150Ω i dont think there would be a difference.

RCA outputs on the back panel are 100 ohms impedance. Nobody runs headphones off those.

The headphone jack is 0.1 ohms impedance,

 

[Dogmatrix]

RCA outputs on the back panel are 100 ohms impedance. Nobody runs headphones off those.

The headphone jack is 0.1 ohms impedance,

He is not talking about running headphones off the rear outputs
He was running a headphone amp (SA-1) between

 

[Slaphead]

I believe the (to SA-1) in the post refers to a Singxer SA-1 headphone amp

Yes that is what i ment

Then my bad. What I said is not applicable in this case (but nevertheless correct for a HP output)

Note to self - must read posts thoroughly before splaffing my hands on a keyboard.

 

[Roses54]

Anyone here considering selling? Very quiet in the classifieds..

 

[dougq]

Anyone here considering selling? Very quiet in the classifieds..

Maybe once the launch of the new one comes in a few months. It’s a hard device to sell. Fully featured dac, powerful amp that drives 99% headphones fully.

 

[Verificateur]

Maybe once the launch of the new one comes in a few months. It’s a hard device to sell. Fully featured dac, powerful amp that drives 99% headphones fully.

Agreed.
Only thing I wish it had a 4.4mm output… if even for the fact that I wouldn’t have to use adapters with most of my headphones.

 

[550591]

Agreed.
Only thing I wish it had a 4.4mm output… if even for the fact that I wouldn’t have to use adapters with most of my headphones.

The new version will have 4.4mm output

 

[Verificateur]

The new version will have 4.4mm output

Ah! I must be out of loop on the new version.
Could you share a link to source on the 4.4mm info, and some info about the upcoming model ?

 

[Slaphead]

Maybe once the launch of the new one comes in a few months. It’s a hard device to sell. Fully featured dac, powerful amp that drives 99% headphones fully.

I think what you mean is that it's an easy device to sell, but a hard device to part with

 

[04gto]

Ah! I must be out of loop on the new version.
Could you share a link to source on the 4.4mm info, and some info about the upcoming model ?

Here is what I found:
RME User Forum
Is that an RME ADI-2/4 PRO SE DAC prototype?
RME-Audio – RME ADI-2/4 PRO SE prototype spotted!

 

[gimmeheadroom]

The new version will have 4.4mm output

We should clarify, it is not a new version of the RME ADI-2 FS DAC this thread is about, it is an upgraded pro version which will be more expensive than the current pro version.

 

[inseconds99]

We should clarify, it is not a new version of the RME ADI-2 FS DAC this thread is about, it is an upgraded pro version which will be more expensive than the current pro version.

I, for one, cannot wait.

 

[04gto]

I, for one, cannot wait.

Same here. I would put in my order now if they would let me!

 

[Slaphead]

I, for one, cannot wait.

Same here. I would put in my order now if they would let me!

I for one am a little bit more cautious. Not that I don't believe that this upgraded version won't be any good, I'm sure it will be fantastic - it's RME after all. It's more to do with what would I gain above my original first gen (with the AK4490). I fear that I would gain little more than some "paper" improvements that are honestly not going to be audible, at least in my particular usage case and setting.

The 4.4 balanced is irrelevant to me as none of my headphones are balanced, nor do I see any requirement for headphones to be balanced - but that's just me. If that's for you then go for it.

I've been around expensive hobbies for more time (and money) that I would care to share, and one thing I've learned is that chasing after the latest and greatest often nets you little more than pride of ownership and bragging rights - especially with technology that's mature such as camera lenses and audio production gear, which can cost a hell of a lot. Often it turns out that it's way better to buy an older model rather than the newer model.

Maybe I'm getting older and less prone to impulse, but I would suggest that unless there really is something that you really need from the new model, or there is a significant improvement in a particular aspect that applies to you, then it'll probably be a better idea to save the money and stick with the old one, at least for the time being.

 

[Bret Halford]

Here is what I found:
RME User Forum
Is that an RME ADI-2/4 PRO SE DAC prototype?
RME-Audio – RME ADI-2/4 PRO SE prototype spotted!

Pretty sure those picks show 2, 6.35 mm jacks that can be operated in balanced (ala the current ADI-2 Pro FS-R Black), with a new additional SE 3.5 mm jack in the middle. Just look at the diameters in the pick, the center jack is half the size of the 1/4 inchers, not 2/3... the 2nd link even mentions it's a 3.5 mm in the center.

Not saying there isn't a new 4.4 mm model in the works (no idea either way), but that's not what's pictured there as far as I can tell.