RME ADI-2 DAC Thread

Jul 15, 2020 at 5:27 PM Post #3,001 of 6,246
iFi is based in the UK - though I guess that won't be in Europe much longer... But their products are excellent, but I've mostly heard their high end stuff, which is a lot more expensive than the RME, to be fair.

The United Kingdom, as a nation state (with countries within countries) encompassing most of the British Isles, will always be geographically and culturally in Europe. It has already left the European Union and what we have now is a transition period. That is another matter.
 
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Jul 15, 2020 at 5:33 PM Post #3,002 of 6,246
The United Kingdom, as a nation state (with countries within countries) encompassing most of the British Isles, will always be geographically and culturally (for now) in Europe. It has already left the European Union and what we have now is a transition period. That is another matter.
I meant in terms of the trade agreements of the union, which is what makes sending a unit for repair much more easy within the union, rather than across the 'border' if you will, which the UK is still part of for a little while yet, until that transition is over - that seemed to be what he was concerned about... But yea, I suppose its a bit of a divisive/hot topic for some at the moment, so lets just get back to RME :P
 
Jul 15, 2020 at 5:33 PM Post #3,003 of 6,246
RME does not do Roon. And it won't ever, according to my predictions. I'm sure you can understand the difference between the two bold categories.

Well that's fairly obvious, the RME isn't a network device. It is like predicting it will never be a CD player or a network streamer.
 
Jul 15, 2020 at 7:16 PM Post #3,004 of 6,246
Cheap and compact solution for RME and Roon over network is Raspberry Pi with a HiFiBerry Digi+ Pro HAT. There is also a nice steel case available for those mini PCs with HiFiBerry HATs. Super small and looks cool:
digi__geh_use_komp.jpg

It's easy to build, no tools required. Youtube guides show it step by step. There are several lightweight OS supporting Roon and other streaming solutions like DLNA, AirPlay, Spotify. Personally I picked Ropieee. Installation is quick and painless. I am using RPi4 this way from several months and I am super happy with it. It also works over Wi-Fi 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz. Total cost is around $115 for RPi4 (2GB RAM) + HiFiBerry HAT + micro SD card + steel case + power supply.

I connected it to my RME via coax and works like a charm. No issues at all. It offers built-in galvanic isolation so no worry about hum.
 
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Jul 16, 2020 at 12:52 AM Post #3,005 of 6,246
Cheap and compact solution for RME and Roon over network is Raspberry Pi with a HiFiBerry Digi+ Pro HAT. There is also a nice steel case available for those mini PCs with HiFiBerry HATs. Super small and looks cool:
digi__geh_use_komp.jpg

It's easy to build, no tools required. Youtube guides show it step by step. There are several lightweight OS supporting Roon and other streaming solutions like DLNA, AirPlay, Spotify. Personally I picked Ropieee. Installation is quick and painless. I am using RPi4 this way from several months and I am super happy with it. It also works over Wi-Fi 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz. Total cost is around $115 for RPi4 (2GB RAM) + HiFiBerry HAT + micro SD card + steel case + power supply.

I connected it to my RME via coax and works like a charm. No issues at all. It offers built-in galvanic isolation so no worry about hum.

Same. I use Volumio.
 
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Jul 16, 2020 at 6:16 AM Post #3,006 of 6,246
But yea, I suppose its a bit of a divisive/hot topic for some at the moment

Yes, it is, but as a manufacturer we'll do our best to adapt to this situation. Now, where were we? Ah yes, RME :grin:
 
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Jul 16, 2020 at 6:31 AM Post #3,007 of 6,246
I hated Roon and wouldn't use it if it was free. I looked at Audirvana and JRiver but didn't like those either. I think the latter two would make sense if you have several streaming services and you want to run one music app on a PC. For my use I'm happy with foobar2000 into the RME. Foobar plays almost every format known to man and it's free. The navigation is very quick over SAMBA. It uses RME's ASIO drivers. RME does not do Roon anyway, I'm not sure why anybody thinks it does.
Nazdar,
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I also tried Audirvana and Jriver - now with ADI2 DAC.

Audirvana (windows app) run correctly for about 20 minutes, then crashed after restart. It does not support DVD-A iso and folder view, generally terrible interface for me. Unistalled after 1 hour.
Jriver - also does not support DVD-A but supports folder view but the interface is still too primitive for me. Maybe I don't know all possibilities...

I use Foobar with a lot of plugins and well configured with Default UI, no ColumnsUI. Extremely flexible piece of sw if you know what to do and what is possible. Widest audio format support. But everything is about knowledge. Default installation which most people use is not best - that is why probably people like other players.

Soundwise all play the same quality audio by ASIO if configured correctly. I did not found difference. Again - everything is about settings and configuration. Commercial players have some parameters already preset - potential advantage for people who don't understand internal things so much.
I tried also some other audio player distributions (booting systems) but when found they don't support even SACD iso and some other formats I stopped trying them.
For me MY Foobar is Porche against bicycles. I have not tried Roon.

But I have one big problem with RME and don't know what to do wit it.
Playing Tidal from official app via Hifi Cable ASIO Bridge exclusive to RME ASIO driver. Normal 16/44 plays perfectly. But Master (24/96 1.ufold) plays for 30s-2min. correctly and then starts big stuttering. After pause for some seconds plays again correctly for some short time. I tried Foobar via this ASIO bridge and it worked for several minutes - didn'try more.
Do you have an idea for solution? I think there is something wrong/incompatibility with Tidal.

@gimmeheadroom Could you compare ADI2 to your Brooklyn?
 
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Jul 16, 2020 at 9:55 AM Post #3,008 of 6,246
But I have one big problem with RME and don't know what to do wit it.
Playing Tidal from official app via Hifi Cable ASIO Bridge exclusive to RME ASIO driver. Normal 16/44 plays perfectly. But Master (24/96 1.ufold) plays for 30s-2min. correctly and then starts big stuttering. After pause for some seconds plays again correctly for some short time. I tried Foobar via this ASIO bridge and it worked for several minutes - didn'try more.
Do you have an idea for solution? I think there is something wrong/incompatibility with Tidal.

Hi,
I use Tidale in connection with my ADI2, also via the RME ASIO driver, and have no problems - neither with 16/44 nor with 24/96.
 
Jul 17, 2020 at 7:07 AM Post #3,010 of 6,246
Excuse me, that was my mistake!
I thought you were talking about a normal audio cable, I didn't know again that there was anything like VB Hifi Cable Asio Bridge.
My ADI2 is connected to my computer via USB, however I have installed the RME driver and also use ASIO, which is probably why the misunderstanding.
 
Jul 17, 2020 at 7:17 AM Post #3,011 of 6,246
So in this case it works but all output from Tidal is resampled to FR which is set in RME driver. So may happen: if you play Master from Tidal and you have 44kHz in RME driver - you downsample from 96kHz to 44kHz.
And this is what can be avoided by this Asio Bridge to achieve bitperfect from Tidal to ADI-2 DAC/PRO - rerouting from normal WDM driver to ASIO output where variable FR can be handled well.
 
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Jul 17, 2020 at 7:53 AM Post #3,012 of 6,246
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Jul 17, 2020 at 8:53 AM Post #3,013 of 6,246
Jul 17, 2020 at 9:07 AM Post #3,014 of 6,246
So now you are playing via shared Windows output set to Hifi Cable. This is also not ideal because Windows can play also something else into it.
Use this: In Tidal - 3 dots, settings, streaming, output to Hifi cable,, More settings set both switches on (Force volume, Exclusive mode).
Windows output set to something else - not Hifi Cable.
Then try to play Masters. This is the right setting for Tidal.
 
Jul 17, 2020 at 9:15 AM Post #3,015 of 6,246
I am on my way.
when i get back home later i will try it out and report.
 

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