paulkemp
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Why dont you guys write a review? That way you can atleast weight your statements and have a conclusion, where you can conclude how the sound is for the price, weak / strong points etc.
You make some good points,and I will leave it at this:
I still dont like the fact you say I(and others)have "over hyped " these(that is my main beef with you,not your opinion of the HM5's themselves)...its simply our opinion of how the HM5's sound,like yours is your opinion of how they sound. I'm a musician for over 40 of my 46 years(no joke),and own a studio over 20 years,so I think I have a little bit of experience with sound as well,but I'm not as scientific as you are,just blunt and honest with how I see it. We may never agree on this and thats fine with me,the whole point of reviews is to get different opinions and to hopefully make a good decision based on that.
Why dont you guys write a review? That way you can atleast weight your statements and have a conclusion, where you can conclude how the sound is for the price, weak / strong points etc.
Actually we did that already,lol. We just agree to disagree on some of the HM5's aspects is all. I use a portable amp full time now as well,so the sound is exactly the way I like it to be all the time...not something I can do with many much more expensive headsets I own. And to be fair,hans030390 says that the sound is fine except for a bass spike he notices in the lower bandwidth...and thats all really. This isnt a deal breaker for someone with an amp to eliminate that spike, or for those of us that really dont notice it at all. some ears are a ton more sensitive than others,so some stuff mentioned in these reviews might not be audible to all folks,and that too is fine. The funny thing about headphone reviews is that everyone hears different things when reviewing them based on what he or she has experienced in the past,so not everyone is going to agree on every point made...and again,thats not a bad thing at all. In fact thats the point I tried to make earlier about having different points of view about the same item,it presents a nice round view of the item being reviewed,and we all benifit from that
http://www.head-fi.org/t/491632/review-fischer-audio-fa-003-a-neutral-champ/105#post_6764639
if these are identical to the FAs then they'll open up after some more burn in. Ironically I've been following the FAs since LFF post his review but never got the chance the buy them until now
I suppose hans isn't the only one noticing the dip. I found a review on the FA-003 by NA Blur from http://www.head-fi.org/products/fischer-audio-fa-003/reviews and that's quite the same thing he mentioned:
Sound:
The sound is definitely dark with an audible midrange attenuation. I heard this easily while listening to John Williams' Double Trouble. It sounded clear and neutral until I switched to my AH-D2000's and realized the a big dip in the midrange of the FA-003. The soundstage is wider than the Creative Aurvana Live and the highs were crisp, be it slightly rolled off.
Edit: Apparently the codes here don't work the same as the forum I frequent
Ok, but I'm not willing to accept them as the same cans when that isnt proved yet. The Fa-003's are ranked very high and also have about 150 pages of people sweet talking them. But that doesn't really make any difference when I'm not one 100% sure they are the very same. Elements, materials or even cables may have been switched in the rebranding process. However ulikely. For me the important part is that there are some issues with them, confirmed by two of the owners. Two out of the few who has then now.
Let me add that this will not impact my listening experience. But it is good to know of these things. We are all different anyway, and experience these things differently.
For me the important part is that there are some issues with them, confirmed by two of the owners.
As I said I received my HM5 with over 250 hours of use that dragon2knight put on them and another 50+ before I worked on my review. I'm using my iBasso D4 which is more than enough power for these. I've run frequency sweeps and so forth and I don't hear any odd bass that any of you are describing, nothing I could even consider bloated at all. I've listened through near flawless masters of Dark Side of the Moon (Black Triangle and the MFSL versions), The Beatles 2009 remasters, and Rage Against the Machine's debut album. All are noted as having excellent audiophile quality mastering and mixing. The HM5 definitely reveal flaws in mastering and mixing and I see no glaring flaws in these.
I can give these a shot with ATH-M50's, though I'm by no means experienced.