[nmatheis]

@MLTKSHHBT - I'm not getting this crackling sound at the beginning of songs. At all. Strange that it's happening for you. Hope you find resolution soon!

 

[rcoleman1]

Same here. Just great playback...no issues at all.

 

[nmatheis]

@rcoleman1 - Do you have either Walnut or Zishan DAPs? If so, what do you think? I tried both but don't think they in any way computer with TJ's gear. Any thoughts, bro?

 

[nmatheis]

Public Service Announcement

If people didn't know, both G1 and P1 can be used as smartphone DAC/Amps. Really sweet!

 

[MLTKSHHBT]

@MLTKSHHBT - I'm not getting this crackling sound at the beginning of songs. At all. Strange that it's happening for you. Hope you find resolution soon!

Which firmware are you on?(I swipe the same card to zishan v2 and ibasso dx90, both do not have that issue).

 

[gr8soundz]

If people didn't know, both G1 and P1 can be used as smartphone DAC/Amps. Really sweet!

I tried connecting my P1 (micro usb to micro usb) to my android phone but got no sound through UAPP. How did you get yours to work?

 

[nmatheis]

Do you have OTG turned on in your phone's settings? Make sure that's turned on.

If you already have that turned on, then try tithing on developer settings and change USB default to Audio Source instead of MTP.

Hope that helps...

 

[nmatheis]

Second most recent. Haven't updated to the most recent one TJ linked to a day or two ago yet...

 

[gr8soundz]

I have both OTG and Developer modes on. I've tried numerous dac/amps direct to my phones and my P1 is among the few that didn't work. Haven't tried it since before the last two firmware updates though.

 

[nmatheis]

Hmm... Well, Android is pretty fragmented. I just picked it up and thought, "Hmm... I wonder if this will work." I fully expected it to fail, but it worked like a charm. I was shocked

 

[rcoleman1]

see next post.

 

[rcoleman1]

@nmatheis Yeah I had both the Walnut and the Zishan. I thought the build quality was subpar on the Walnut and the UI on the Zishan left a lot to be desired. Definitely the P1 tops them both in build, sound and simplicity. Kudos to TJ.

 

[MLTKSHHBT]

After some troubleshooting, I managed to solve the pop/clicking issue.
Since all my music files are stored and backup as one single file and cue per each album(16/44.1 flac or wav), I need to split them to individual tracks to be played in p1.
The culprit is foobar convertor. All the files split with foobar even with metadata tags removed, it still has the click/pop sound at the end or in the beginning of playback.
Simply using cuetools to do the splitting and conversion has eliminated the click sound.
I'm not sure why this happens only to p1, as my the other two players do not have that issue.
I can finally enjoy the music from p1 now!

 

[tjstyle]

P1 is using old Multibit DAC that very sensitive to sample rate change.
Zishan or Walnut is using Delta Sigma DAC, so It's like my Teri G1, it's more immune to sample rate change.
I was do tricky function in firmware side to eliminate the click, but it's just eliminate, not completely silent.

@tjstyle
Is there anyway to eliminate the annoying click/pop sound in the beginning playback of each track(regardless of file format, the sound can be mild to slightly loud, same files in the same sd card does not have this issue on zishan v2). I'm on the latest firmware.
I read somewhere it said "
If audio software or hardware player re-initialize DAC for each track, DC bias may be listened as click. To avoid such pops Smooth DC processing is recommended.

DAC condition changing may cause clicks."
In the case of p1, what do think the cause of the issue?

After some troubleshooting, I managed to solve the pop/clicking issue.
Since all my music files are stored and backup as one single file and cue per each album(16/44.1 flac or wav), I need to split them to individual tracks to be played in p1.
The culprit is foobar convertor. All the files split with foobar even with metadata tags removed, it still has the click/pop sound at the end or in the beginning of playback.
Simply using cuetools to do the splitting and conversion has eliminated the click sound.
I'm not sure why this happens only to p1, as my the other two players do not have that issue.
I can finally enjoy the music from p1 now!

I will test this function in recent update to confirm are USB DAC is working in recent update.

I have both OTG and Developer modes on. I've tried numerous dac/amps direct to my phones and my P1 is among the few that didn't work. Haven't tried it since before the last two firmware updates though.

 

[MLTKSHHBT]

P1 is using old Multibit DAC that very sensitive to sample rate change.
Zishan or Walnut is using Delta Sigma DAC, so It's like my Teri G1, it's more immune to sample rate change.
I was do tricky function in firmware side to eliminate the click, but it's just eliminate, not completely silent.

P1 is using old Multibit DAC that very sensitive to sample rate change.
Zishan or Walnut is using Delta Sigma DAC, so It's like my Teri G1, it's more immune to sample rate change.
I was do tricky function in firmware side to eliminate the click, but it's just eliminate, not completely silent.

Thanks for the insight! It is clear now different DAC' s sensitivity to sample rate change, may result to the possible click differently.
Take a google of this pop/click issue, seems like quite a lot of users experiencing it, even though I suppose most of them are having modern players which using delta sigma DAC. While developers like yourself have already anticipated the probability of the issue, and you work to your best to minimise it, end users will have to look into other variables that could bring the issue.
For my case, since I only play cue file with a large single file, for quite a long time, which completely rule out the click issue. With p1, I will have relearn on playing track to track on individual file.
As I shared earlier, different covertors do play a part for the cause. 16/44.1 files seems relatively easier to fix, as the source most likely are from red book CD.
Hi-res files can be more complicated.
I paid for a convertor which says will be able to get rid of the clicking issue for DSD files (aul convertor).
But from my experience of using the convertor, not all DSD file which have the click issue can be salvaged, and the software developer does make it clear, if the click noise is inherited from the original iso file, it's unlikely to eliminate it even using his convertor.