[Rebel975]

guys i was hoping you could "tell" me a spec lol. what settings would you use to o/c vengence 1600mhz on a z68 board? thanks.

Personally, I wouldn't OC the ram. You'll see basically no performance increase and the system may become unstable. Ram is notorious for causing BSoD's if not set up correctly.

 

[nihaz]

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Personally, I wouldn't OC the ram. You'll see basically no performance increase and the system may become unstable. Ram is notorious for causing BSoD's if not set up correctly.

+1
 
Agree, I returned my RAM to stock after trying various 'recommended' timings by friends who OC professionally/competitively..
IMHO too much trouble for a very slight gain...
 
I don't know about your specs, but if you are looking for a speed boost and have not yet purchased SSDs, I would highly recommend getting them. Newer versions of the sandforce controller enable read/write speeds of around 900/900 (2 SSDs in RAID0) which means very fast boot/loading times... how fast? Windows & loads up within 10 - 15 seconds from POST (when your computer does the beeping thing) screen

 

[music_man]

i am going to agree with you! anytime i have messed with ram even a little i got bsod/reboot city. it says it is overclockable but i figure i should leave well enough alone. it would not boot at 1933mhz so i do not see any point in going say 1700 over 1600. i guess the answer is ram is not really overclockable regardless of corsair's marketing claims. like you said, perhaps a little but not enough that it would make a difference. i do not know if 2100 i would see a difference but i did want it. problem is it is 4 times the price of the 1600 right now.
 
 

 

[Rebel975]

RAM speed is basically irrelevant. A number of other things can/do show real world speed increases: SSD's, faster CPU/GPU's, MORE ram (depending on your application and how much you already have), etc. I seriously wouldn't worry about the ram speed. Overclock the CPU and GPU if you want to actually see some increased FPS.

 

[music_man]

i did not think it was worth it but worth checking with you guys. thanks. this is a very fast machine, extreme proc,3 sli, raid ssd etc. i wanted the 2100 memory but honestly tiger did not even have it at the warehouse that day. they told me there is not a lot of demand due to the cost and small gain.

 

[Blisse]

-nvm-

 

[Rebel975]

-nvm-

I saw your comment before you edited it out. You were right. People with SATA3 motherboards can see much higher speeds with SSD's. I guess I forgot that not everyone has a SATA3 motherboard. Now that you mention it I wouldn't recommend buying a SSD unless you have SATA3.

 

[music_man]

indeed. i have ssd's in raid on sata3. sata3 seems to be a waste for platter drives. a platter drive can not come even close to that speed even if the controller can. i say anyone that has sata3 ports get at least one $75 ssd and plug the platter drive into the sata2. my ssd's are intel 520's which i think may even be faster than sata3!

 

[bowei006]

NZXT Nemesis Elite Gaming Chasis
-3 LED 12cm Fans
-Mid ATX
-Front shield panel w/7light changing LED's

AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 125W( rev.2) CPU 
-Code Nameeneb
-Quard Core. Runs at 3,4GHz. Overclockable to 4.1GHz
-128KB L1 Cache
-2MB L2 Cache
-6MB L3 Cache
-AMD K10 Architecutre.
-Idle Temp: 28 C

Corsair H50 Liquid Cooling
-1600 RPM built in pump
-Artic Silver 5 thermal paste used
-Copper conductive heat plate
-Dual Fan config. 

Asustek M4A78T-E
-AMD 790GX Dragon Chipset
-Socket AM3 (938)
-AMD SB700 Southbridge

PQI Dragon RAM
-3-2GB(6GB) DDR3
-Dual Channel
-CAS Latency 9-9-9-24-33
-669MHz or 1333MT/s
-Heat spreader

ATi Radeon HD 5770 Overclocked graphics
-1024MB GDDR5 @1330 MHz
-128-bit bandwith
-Core Clock @ 925MHz
-AMD RV840
-40nm design

Asustek VH236H Monitor
-23"
-1920x1080 w/ progressive scan(meaning 1080p)
-16:9 aspect ratio
-2ms response time. GTG(gray to gray)

OCZ ModXstream Pro PSU
-700W
-Modular
-1-140cm Fan

Backup- Tuniq Ensemble 1200W

 

[music_man]

that is really cool for that cpu even on water i think. good job.

 

[Szadzik]

 
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I saw your comment before you edited it out. You were right. People with SATA3 motherboards can see much higher speeds with SSD's. I guess I forgot that not everyone has a SATA3 motherboard. Now that you mention it I wouldn't recommend buying a SSD unless you have SATA3.

I have SATA II on my laptop and got a huge performance boost over a 7200 HDD. I have two of them at the same time, so I am not losing all the space for just speed.
 

 

[music_man]

i think i have a problem. i7-3960x. big after market air cooler. hits 94c on intel burn but gets success. ouch! do i need to work on getting that temp down. or if it is stable is it ok? that is the temp in the bios monitor.

 

[Blisse]

 
Quote:

I saw your comment before you edited it out. You were right. People with SATA3 motherboards can see much higher speeds with SSD's. I guess I forgot that not everyone has a SATA3 motherboard. Now that you mention it I wouldn't recommend buying a SSD unless you have SATA3.

I have SATA II on my laptop and got a huge performance boost over a 7200 HDD. I have two of them at the same time, so I am not losing all the space for just speed.
 

I removed my comment cause the person you were referring to did have a SATA3 board, so it was irrelevant unless you were being very general. My bad. :d

I think Rebel is saying that buying a SATA2 SSD limits you to 250/250, which is excellent, but because tech is moving so quickly, you can spend $10-20 more and get a SATA3 SSD, which is a massive improvement over that. And if you put a good SATA3 SSD with SATA2 ports, you're wasting a lot of money. I personally haven't gotten an SSD for this reason.

@music_man, does the 94C change from like boot up to load? Download a temp monitoring program. If not, it could be a faulty sensor. If yes, then I would make sure I seated the heatsink properly, and spread the thermal paste evenly. 94C is way too high if you have a big heatsink.

 

[music_man]

even though it passed intel burn the bios is warning me "overclocking is too high" at boot. it is at 4.77ghz. just pressed the "twin turbo" button. if that is not too high i will check the heat sink. at boot a lot of apps are loaded. it is 70f in here. the cpu is at 38c idle. i am not getting any bsods or lock ups.

 

[Rebel975]

I don't know what the recommended thermal limit for a 3XXX series is, but the 2XXX series was not supposed to get over 72C. I'm assuming our CPU's both have the same thermal limit of ~100C (the point at which it shuts down to protect itself). If I'm right then 94C is way too hot.