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Apr 22, 2015 at 12:09 PM Post #3,916 of 5,383
My latest turntable: Ariston Q Deck II. With Glanz MFG 310LX cartridge.
 

 

 
I will later replace old Glanz with brand new Ortofon OM10 cartridge. Or perhaps AT95E. Glanz sounds good but it is old and since there is no more replacement parts and no real idea of its condition it's better to switch a new one.
 
Apr 22, 2015 at 12:49 PM Post #3,917 of 5,383
Very nice!  Congratulations.
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 2:19 AM Post #3,918 of 5,383
  My latest turntable: Ariston Q Deck II. With Glanz MFG 310LX cartridge.
 

 

 
I will later replace old Glanz with brand new Ortofon OM10 cartridge. Or perhaps AT95E. Glanz sounds good but it is old and since there is no more replacement parts and no real idea of its condition it's better to switch a new one.

Hold your horses - Glanz carts (same thing as Astatic, produced by Mitachi of Japan ) are worth searching for the replacement stylus. They are about as common as pink elephants these days. If you like the house sound, there is one currently on ebay from England http://www.ebay.de/itm/GLANZ-MFG-110EX-CART-AND-NEW-STYLUS-/351363818402?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51ceea63a2  It is the entry level, but that "something more" provided by the Moving Flux Mitachi cart is still there. Here is another conical if you wish to stock up : http://www.ebay.de/itm/Phonograph-STYLUS-NEEDLE-ASTATIC-N1728-5d-For-MF-400-ORANGE-COLOR-/321719754831?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae7fde04f
 
It is worth noting Glanz styli quality increases with the number  (11 trough 71, 4 models, further differentiated by the stylus fitted, making total of 8 available styli that all fit - similar with three digit models ), while with Astatic it decreases  ( 400 trough 100, 4 models ). As with everything, better models are all but gone - or when they do pop upfor sale, they command silly money. There are currently two Astatic 200H ( H denoting with headshell, otherwise BETTER than the TOTL 100/100H, equivalent of Glanz MFG 61L (Shibata stylus, EX was elliptical) on ebay at approx 175.
 
ALL of the above is RARE .
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 4:44 AM Post #3,919 of 5,383
  Hold your horses - Glanz carts (same thing as Astatic, produced by Mitachi of Japan ) are worth searching for the replacement stylus. They are about as common as pink elephants these days. If you like the house sound, there is one currently on ebay from England http://www.ebay.de/itm/GLANZ-MFG-110EX-CART-AND-NEW-STYLUS-/351363818402?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51ceea63a2  It is the entry level, but that "something more" provided by the Moving Flux Mitachi cart is still there. Here is another conical if you wish to stock up : http://www.ebay.de/itm/Phonograph-STYLUS-NEEDLE-ASTATIC-N1728-5d-For-MF-400-ORANGE-COLOR-/321719754831?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae7fde04f
 
It is worth noting Glanz styli quality increases with the number  (11 trough 71, 4 models, further differentiated by the stylus fitted, making total of 8 available styli that all fit - similar with three digit models ), while with Astatic it decreases  ( 400 trough 100, 4 models ). As with everything, better models are all but gone - or when they do pop upfor sale, they command silly money. There are currently two Astatic 200H ( H denoting with headshell, otherwise BETTER than the TOTL 100/100H, equivalent of Glanz MFG 61L (Shibata stylus, EX was elliptical) on ebay at approx 175.
 
ALL of the above is RARE .

Thank you for valuable information. Didin't know all that about Glanz cartridges. I'll keep my eye if some replacement stylii pops up in eBay with reasonable cost but in the meantime I'll switch for new box/needle for the sake of my Records :D
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 4:57 AM Post #3,920 of 5,383
  Thank you for valuable information. Didin't know all that about Glanz cartridges. I'll keep my eye if some replacement stylii pops up in eBay with reasonable cost but in the meantime I'll switch for new box/needle for the sake of my Records :D

In your shoes, I would press the trigger on this one : http://www.ebay.de/itm/ASTATIC-MF200H-/301596832191?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46389271bf  - at least no import duties etc. They are not going to get cheaper, that is for sure...
 
Half or so year ago, there were a few MFG 31E styli available from the USA at around 60 - but by now, they are all gone.
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 5:44 AM Post #3,921 of 5,383
  In your shoes, I would press the trigger on this one : http://www.ebay.de/itm/ASTATIC-MF200H-/301596832191?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46389271bf  - at least no import duties etc. They are not going to get cheaper, that is for sure...
 
Half or so year ago, there were a few MFG 31E styli available from the USA at around 60 - but by now, they are all gone.

That's way too much for my budget atm. Too bad, it looks really nice.
EDIT: How about Tenorel? Found this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/TURNTABLE-STYLUS-NEEDLE-Astatic-MF-100-MF-200-MF-300-Tenorel-2001-CARTRIDGE-/201328635545?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ee01f2e99
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 6:10 AM Post #3,922 of 5,383

NOOOOO ! - it does not fit, it is either an error made by the seller - or intentionally misleading.
 
This is how Glanz MFG/Astatic MF stily look like (aside from colour and cantilever/stylus differences) :
 

 
 
 
If money is tight, no other option at the moment : http://www.ebay.de/itm/Phonograph-STYLUS-NEEDLE-ASTATIC-N1728-5d-For-MF-400-ORANGE-COLOR-/321719754831?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae7fde04f&clk_rvr_id=819247351078&rmvSB=true
 
Better conical new stylus than old that can not be properly inspected/tested and being potentially dangerous to records.
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 6:20 AM Post #3,923 of 5,383
  NOOOOO ! - it does not fit, it is either an error made by the seller - or intentionally misleading.
 
This is how Glanz MFG/Astatic MF stily look like (aside from colour and cantilever/stylus differences) :
 

 
 
 
If money is tight, no other option at the moment : http://www.ebay.de/itm/Phonograph-STYLUS-NEEDLE-ASTATIC-N1728-5d-For-MF-400-ORANGE-COLOR-/321719754831?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae7fde04f&clk_rvr_id=819247351078&rmvSB=true
 
Better conical new stylus than old that can not be properly inspected/tested and being potentially dangerous to records.

Thank you for confirmation. I thought that it might be a wrong one.
I think I put Glanz in safe place for the moment and buy that brand new Ortofon OM10 cartridge with OM10 stylus. It seems that the OM10 (or OMB10) was the factory installed cartrige in most Ariston Q Decks. So it's a safe bet in that regard.
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 6:32 AM Post #3,924 of 5,383
  Thank you for confirmation. I thought that it might be a wrong one.
I think I put Glanz in safe place for the moment and buy that brand new Ortofon OM10 cartridge with OM10 stylus. It seems that the OM10 (or OMB10) was the factory installed cartrige in most Ariston Q Decks. So it's a safe bet in that regard.

Ortofon is a good cartridge - and indeed was factory installed on many decks, Ariston included. Currently, Ortofon is selling more than 100.000 carts per year trough Pro-Ject.
 
But - Glanz/Astatic branded Mitachi Moving Flux cartridge is one of the latest developments in phono cartridges - besides patent being from mid 70s. What it does better than the rest is hard to describe. If you like the sound of your present cart, it means it is not tooooo worn - and is unlikely you will find OM10 to be an improvement.  I have Astatic MF-100 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/7794685@N03/sets/72157615140899137/ ( the only cartridge/stylus EVER to feature UNIPIVOT BEARING FULCRUM IN ITS SUSPENSION ) - and my sample unfortunately is not nearly as good as Glanz MFG71L (its direct equivalent) I have heard years ago. I am on the lookout for the next best, but conventional fulcrum ( Astatic MF-200 or Glanz 61L ) - at a more reasonable price. Too many cartridges already - but if it was my only one, I would get that one from Denmark in a heartbeat. 
 
Priorities...
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 8:52 AM Post #3,925 of 5,383
  Ortofon is a good cartridge - and indeed was factory installed on many decks, Ariston included. Currently, Ortofon is selling more than 100.000 carts per year trough Pro-Ject.
 
But - Glanz/Astatic branded Mitachi Moving Flux cartridge is one of the latest developments in phono cartridges - besides patent being from mid 70s. What it does better than the rest is hard to describe. If you like the sound of your present cart, it means it is not tooooo worn - and is unlikely you will find OM10 to be an improvement.  I have Astatic MF-100 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/7794685@N03/sets/72157615140899137/ ( the only cartridge/stylus EVER to feature UNIPIVOT BEARING FULCRUM IN ITS SUSPENSION ) - and my sample unfortunately is not nearly as good as Glanz MFG71L (its direct equivalent) I have heard years ago. I am on the lookout for the next best, but conventional fulcrum ( Astatic MF-200 or Glanz 61L ) - at a more reasonable price. Too many cartridges already - but if it was my only one, I would get that one from Denmark in a heartbeat.
 
Priorities...

So, let me get this straight: if I want to continue using my Glanz cartridge then the most low cost solution would be buying this: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Phonograph-STYLUS-NEEDLE-ASTATIC-N1728-5d-For-MF-400-ORANGE-COLOR-/321719754831?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae7fde04f&clk_rvr_id=819247351078&rmvSB=true&clk_rvr_id=819327962563&rmvSB=true
It's a (good) match with my box?
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 8:58 AM Post #3,926 of 5,383
  So, let me get this straight: if I want to continue using my Glanz cartridge then the most low cost solution would be buying this: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Phonograph-STYLUS-NEEDLE-ASTATIC-N1728-5d-For-MF-400-ORANGE-COLOR-/321719754831?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae7fde04f&clk_rvr_id=819247351078&rmvSB=true&clk_rvr_id=819327962563&rmvSB=true
It's a (good) match with my box?

Yes. Unless you can locate a better model at the same or even lower price - which is quite unlikely.
 
What do you think by "box" - a cartridge ? Preamp ? Turntable ?
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 9:41 AM Post #3,927 of 5,383
 So, let me get this straight: if I want to continue using my Glanz cartridge then the most low cost solution would be buying this: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Phonograph-STYLUS-NEEDLE-ASTATIC-N1728-5d-For-MF-400-ORANGE-COLOR-/321719754831?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae7fde04f&clk_rvr_id=819247351078&rmvSB=true&clk_rvr_id=819327962563&rmvSB=true
It's a (good) match with my box?

Yes. Unless you can locate a better model at the same or even lower price - which is quite unlikely.
 
What do you think by "box" - a cartridge ? Preamp ? Turntable ?

Yes, box as a cartridge in this context. In my native language cartridge is referred sometimes as a box :)
I'm tempted...
 
Apr 23, 2015 at 4:58 PM Post #3,928 of 5,383
I really wouldn't buy an OM10. I had something like that as first cart om my Dual 505-III and replacing it was my first move up. I replaced it with a Yamaha MC21 HO-MC, and boy, was that an improvement.

The Ariston looks really nice. The arm looks serious, the table too, no frills. Worthy of a good cart.
 
Apr 24, 2015 at 2:00 AM Post #3,929 of 5,383
I really wouldn't buy an OM10. I had something like that as first cart om my Dual 505-III and replacing it was my first move up. I replaced it with a Yamaha MC21 HO-MC, and boy, was that an improvement.

The Ariston looks really nice. The arm looks serious, the table too, no frills. Worthy of a good cart.

Thank you.
You and analogsurviver convinced me to try first to rejuvenate my old Glanz. So I pulled the tricker on that Astatic stylus (for MF-400 cartridge).
The old stylus works and the cartridge sounds really nice but I did notice some sibilance on vocals which, as I understand, is probably a sign of a worn stylus.
 
And since this is a photograph thread I'd better post a picture to break this wall of text :D
 

 
Apr 24, 2015 at 9:11 AM Post #3,930 of 5,383
Aren't we all guilty of that? :D

It looks like a thoroughly vintage 80-ies 'modern' look. :cool:
 

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