[Surrealsky]

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Originally Posted by Figuto /img/forum/go_quote.gif No. But I expected something better. Because somebody here says that Audéo are better than ER-4P and it is not true.

All folks have different expectation. I sold off my er4p after using them for quite some time. The phonaks justified my switch for me, it's a diff sound signature but quite the same in details, speed and clarity only with better bass to me. I beg to differ in comfort levels, the phonaks easily takes the cake.

 

[FlyPenFly]

Anyone else finding it a bit uncomfortable?

I mean they're light but they go way far into my ears. I've actually had an incident already where the silicone tip became stuck in my ear when I pulled out the phone. That was incredibly awkward.

Also, I think I gotta agree with the anythingbutipod review where it seems the edges kind of poke into sensitive parts of the ear and it becomes sore....

 

[charlie0904]

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Originally Posted by FlyPenFly /img/forum/go_quote.gif Anyone else finding it a bit uncomfortable? I mean they're light but they go way far into my ears. I've actually had an incident already where the silicone tip became stuck in my ear when I pulled out the phone. That was incredibly awkward. Also, I think I gotta agree with the anythingbutipod review where it seems the edges kind of poke into sensitive parts of the ear and it becomes sore....

try not to push to in... may hurt. it happen to me.

 

[Surrealsky]

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Originally Posted by FlyPenFly /img/forum/go_quote.gif Anyone else finding it a bit uncomfortable? I mean they're light but they go way far into my ears. I've actually had an incident already where the silicone tip became stuck in my ear when I pulled out the phone. That was incredibly awkward. Also, I think I gotta agree with the anythingbutipod review where it seems the edges kind of poke into sensitive parts of the ear and it becomes sore....

What edges? no matter how i turn or twist inside my ear i have never felt any poke or pain, i can wear damn straight for hours and still go on. Guess you have picky ears.

 

[FlyPenFly]

Its the shape, when inserted it pushes against some parts of my ear that don't happen with round designs like the Vibes, RE0, NE7M.

 

[doubts even here]

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Originally Posted by FlyPenFly /img/forum/go_quote.gif Also, I think I gotta agree with the anythingbutipod review where it seems the edges kind of poke into sensitive parts of the ear and it becomes sore....

Had the same problem until I tried inverted shure olives. Now there is nearly perfect fit, not enough to sleep with them, but good enough for normal use.

 

[Surrealsky]

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Originally Posted by FlyPenFly /img/forum/go_quote.gif Its the shape, when inserted it pushes against some parts of my ear that don't happen with round designs like the Vibes, RE0, NE7M.

Probably the outer casing design which is meant to fit nicely and securely outside your ear canal is causing you problems, don't think anything much can be done...

 

[Surrealsky]

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Originally Posted by doubts even here /img/forum/go_quote.gif Had the same problem until I tried inverted shure olives. Now there is nearly perfect fit, not enough to sleep with them, but good enough for normal use.

I dont think fly meant the tips, more like the outer casing design.

 

[analogbox]

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Originally Posted by Figuto /img/forum/go_quote.gif No. But I expected something better. Because somebody here says that Audéo are better than ER-4P and it is not true.

I'm keeping both because I see different uses for both of them. See, ER-4P isn't really portable friendly with all the fit problems and the cable noise whereas PFEs are really easy to put in and it's less microphonic so it's more ideal for portable use. Where ER-4P/S shines is in detail and imaging area. PFEs do a very good job on this also but it's not on the same level. Because of it's delicate cables and the detail oriented nature, I mainly use it at home when it's nice and quiet so that I can swallow all details that they offer.

I think, you may have been disappointed because you thought PFEs are be all, end all phones, but it's not. It may not do all the things that every IEMs do out there. What it can do is that it does a pretty good job at embracing all the good things that other IEMs can do. And, that's the beauty of it.

 

[FlyPenFly]

Doesn't bother me that much really until about 120 minutes of use then I gotta take a break and put on the NE7M to relieve the sore spots.

 

[Zalithian]

How much are they with the save10 coupon and is that an instant rebate?

 

[doubts even here]

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Originally Posted by Surrealsky /img/forum/go_quote.gif I dont think fly meant the tips, more like the outer casing design.

I understand. My problem must have been the design of stick one plugs his tips on (which is probably inevitable as it grants place for the filters). Can't complain about the outer casing, though.

 

[Surrealsky]

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Originally Posted by analogbox /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm keeping both because I see different uses for both of them. See, ER-4P isn't really portable friendly with all the fit problems and the cable noise whereas PFEs are really easy to put in and it's less microphonic so it's more ideal for portable use. Where ER-4P/S shines is in detail and imaging area. PFEs do a very good job on this also but it's not on the same level. Because of it's delicate cables and the detail oriented nature, I mainly use it at home when it's nice and quiet so that I can swallow all details that they offer. I think, you may have been disappointed because you thought PFEs are be all, end all phones, but it's not. It may not do all the things that every IEMs do out there. What it can do is that it does a pretty good job at embracing all the good things that other IEMs can do. And, that's the beauty of it.

I love the er4p too...but couple of things were really bugging me, its damn ugly....the way the iems are poking straight out from your ears...imagine if you were to be knocked on the outer end of it...omg i shudder to think...most likely seriously damaging your ear drums. The cables are hideous and long( need to recable ) and microphonics were pretty evident when you are on the go. It will serve you well for home usage but being an outgoing person like me..i can't put up with it anymore when i got the phonaks.

 

[Surrealsky]

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Originally Posted by FlyPenFly /img/forum/go_quote.gif Doesn't bother me that much really until about 120 minutes of use then I gotta take a break and put on the NE7M to relieve the sore spots.

Sorry to hear about that bro. Probably you might wanna sell them off and get another pair...perhaps the w3? IE8 are very picky and hard to fit..

 

[tstarn06]

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Originally Posted by FlyPenFly /img/forum/go_quote.gif Anyone else finding it a bit uncomfortable? I mean they're light but they go way far into my ears. I've actually had an incident already where the silicone tip became stuck in my ear when I pulled out the phone. That was incredibly awkward. Also, I think I gotta agree with the anythingbutipod review where it seems the edges kind of poke into sensitive parts of the ear and it becomes sore....

No, no problems. In fact, comfort rivals the X10s (I use the Complys). Sounds like the PFEs just might not be for you, with all the issues you have encountered.