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Originally Posted by aaron313 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Let's see... you order food and the person uses their personal car and gas, and drives it over to your (possibly) lazy ass. I see the logic in your statement, and I used to somewhat agree with that sentiment. However, in many states, servers make money only on tips. Their paycheck is literally $0. So in fact it is entirely up to the customer to pay the server. When I make deliveries I get paid hourly, so I do get a paycheck. However, you have to be a cheap person to stiff a driver $2 on a $10 delivery. I personally wish it were the case that the tip were included in the price of the meal, like I believe it is in some other countries.
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I honestly have no idea, how things are run on the mainland, but here in Hawaii, delivery men, are given a allowance for gas, or they would use the resteraunt's car to deliver the goods, since it has stickers and decals on it that advertises the goods.
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Originally Posted by cwell2112 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Go see the movie Waiting. Then you'll know.
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A lot of my firends work in the food industry, waiters, cooks, greeters, and what not. And they tell me up front, sure they mess with people's orders, but that's mainly because they hate the waiter, or the customer was a total ****** while ordering. Like the bit of cheese burger with no cheese, then being drunken idoits.
BTW: People always think that they deserve more than they are due. Some waiters think that they deserve a tip at all when they drop the plate onto the table instead of taking the time of just placing it on the table. I mean seriously they have about 5 minutes at most of dealing wiht us when we enter the door until when we leave, but those 5 minutes can be the differance of a 20% tip, and simply no tip at all.
What I don't get is that sure, you drive a dinky car to deliver food to my door. Thank you, but why should I tip you on the same level as the people who have to deal with me, fill my glass, ask me if I want dessert, remember who ordered what, and so on. As I see it deliverymen only have to get it from the kitchen, box it, drive to your house, and ring your door bell.
Do they cook? no
Do they wait on you? no
Do they do anything extra ordinary? no
Do they get an allowance for gas? yes
Do they have to remember who ordered what? no
The point is, why tip the deliverymen extra? Or on the same standing as a busboy? They don't do anything extraordinary. The food is already more expensive than ordering it at the resteraunt, and the whoel point of ordering out is not really having to tip.
Sure I do tip delivermen, but only if the food arrives, hot, and within a 30 minute time window. Sure, it's rough, but think of it this way, everyone has standards.