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Headphoneus Supremus
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Yep, you read my mind. I was going to mention Grados but wanted to let someone else say it, so I brought up the more obscure Senn 414.
I love the Oppos and find them musical and addictive and resolving, but I do know what you mean vs. the Audezes (LCD3 in my case that I own).
Similarly, the Audezes (and HD800s for that matter) fall one step short of the Stax SR009s (that I own) in the area of "liveness" and "being there".
But personally realism and presence for me is not the only factor that determines musical enjoyment.
And even I myself am surprised that I feel this way.
It seems there are different roads to musical pleasure, and I think it pays to have an open mind about what's good for you.
For some reason, the Oppos hit some important pleasure center in my brain, and I'm thinking this is true for others here too, along with the gushing reviewers.
The Oppos seemed designed from the heart and by ear, not by an abstract engineering design model.
(I think this dichotomy is why they are causing such polarizing opinions here, and so much attention.)
In that sense, they are doing something very right, and have a unique set of sonics, and therefore I think that qualifies them as (overused adjective alert!) awesome.
I think they are a breakthrough headphone.
If any other headphones you can think of were designed much more from the heart than the head, I'd be curious to hear what they are (maybe this topic should have a thread of its own).
(Believe it or not, I think the original Sennheiser 414 --yellow pads, toy-like construction and all-- may be in this camp.)
Senn HD414 photo:
http://www.head-fi.org/products/sennheiser-hd414
I love the Oppos and find them musical and addictive and resolving, but I do know what you mean vs. the Audezes (LCD3 in my case that I own).
Similarly, the Audezes (and HD800s for that matter) fall one step short of the Stax SR009s (that I own) in the area of "liveness" and "being there".
But personally realism and presence for me is not the only factor that determines musical enjoyment.
And even I myself am surprised that I feel this way.
It seems there are different roads to musical pleasure, and I think it pays to have an open mind about what's good for you.
For some reason, the Oppos hit some important pleasure center in my brain, and I'm thinking this is true for others here too, along with the gushing reviewers.
The Oppos seemed designed from the heart and by ear, not by an abstract engineering design model.
(I think this dichotomy is why they are causing such polarizing opinions here, and so much attention.)
In that sense, they are doing something very right, and have a unique set of sonics, and therefore I think that qualifies them as (overused adjective alert!) awesome.
I think they are a breakthrough headphone.
If any other headphones you can think of were designed much more from the heart than the head, I'd be curious to hear what they are (maybe this topic should have a thread of its own).
(Believe it or not, I think the original Sennheiser 414 --yellow pads, toy-like construction and all-- may be in this camp.)
Thanks HiFiAudio. Actually, I've never been a fan of audio systems or speakers that mask things. For example, I sold my Harbeth SHL5 speakers because I felt they never got to the root of the music at any frequency.
While the PM-1 does not scream up top or in the upper mids, they are definitely present and all the important details are there.
And the lower mids sound firm,controlled, and transparent and well connected to the bass, for example with drums, which sound to me like one of the PM1's strengths actually, with speed and attack, electrostatic style.
I got some flack for recommending the PM-1 on the Stax III thread to someone who was troubled by exaggerated high frequencies.
Someone seemed offended that I even dared to compare the Oppo to a Stax SR007, but I stand by my assertion that the PM-1 reminds me more of Stax phones than any other phones,
and has a strangely similar insight and speed as the SR009, like the Oppo designer used the Stax flagship as a role model.
I think a PM-1 owner should consider this limited offer for an amp:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UWUEZG?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=&linkCode=xm2&tag=bestprinte-20
I have never gone down the speaker taps route, I've been to busy playing with dedicated headphone amps so I cant say much on that subject. The speaker amps for headphones thread has some good info on that.
As far as drums being a dull thud on the PM1s, I don't hear that myself on my set. Totally random speculation: Your Pioneer, while having plenty of power, might have high output impedance on the phone jack which is interacting with the low impedance PM1s? Admittedly unlikely as planar phones are supposedly less susceptible to this type of distortion but some receiver makers don't pay too much attention to their phone jacks ( like speakers on good TVs). Are there any specs available for the headphone out on that unit?
My suggestion is try the PM1s on another player, a DAP or even your phone. If you are still perceiving that quality, try out a little bassier can. Might be you just are used to a more fuller sound. For the record, I don't much subscribe to break in significantly changing the sound of a can so don't hang on to these hoping for the miracle. Your appreciation of their sound may change though, that happens to me all the time.
Correction. Had to return PM-1 due to really bad fit. Really uncomfortable, don't recommend. Eating my words.
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That is something very personal. I find them very comfortable and love their sound.
Not personal but very public. OPPO could have had the decency to post product dimension on their page, especially for headphones not available for demo and and being in over $1K luxury market. Bad engineering, bad ergonomics.