ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |
Aug 31, 2016 at 8:49 PM Post #11,071 of 16,328
Like krismusic said, my own issue with the 3.5mm Jack is not related to a wobbly jack that can fall off. Mine just doesn't grip the TRS plug firmly.
Pricejapan being non responsive means I just have my 2.5mm to go by


Same issue here and pricejapan is non responsive too.
 
Aug 31, 2016 at 10:05 PM Post #11,072 of 16,328
you're definitely right to also of course consider the plug factor too.
Tried 5 different 3.5mm Trs plugs, incl neutrik, oyaide, the stock noble one from savant, fiio ex-1, stock Empire ears one. They all ended up sliding out 1mm which cuts music by a mere 45° rotation of the barrel or even from the movement of the cable itself.
I don't even understand how this could've gone past QC/QA

That is odd, I'm not sure what to say. I tried I think two 3.5mm plugs when I had a DP-X1 and I had no issue at all. I'm sorry that you are having this issue. I see that you are in line to grab one of the new Sony DAPs. Are you going gold or black?
 
Aug 31, 2016 at 10:47 PM Post #11,074 of 16,328
Aug 31, 2016 at 11:52 PM Post #11,075 of 16,328
I was wondering if the Onkyo HF player on Google Play has all the offerings of the built in player on the DP-X1 ?
It certianly has a much better interface.  
 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onkyo.jp.musicplayer&hl=en
 
Sep 1, 2016 at 12:28 AM Post #11,077 of 16,328
Would anyone be able to advise if the Onkyo HF player on the Google Play store would use the hardware abilities  of the DP-X1 instead of using the in built music player. ?

Thanks


I am currently using the Onkyo HD Player built-in to DP-X1. However, if you want the unlock version you need to purchase $8.47 via Google play I guess.
I do not know if I answer your question?!
 
Sep 1, 2016 at 4:52 AM Post #11,079 of 16,328
Rooting the DPX1 and Viper4Android?
 


Hi. Some of you have been asking about rooting the DPX1. However, others feel we should keep this thread devoted to the DPX1 as it is. It makes sense because I think the majority look at the DPX1 and say, "If I it ain't broke don't fix it" (aside from sundry minor issues). Then… there are those that say, "If it ain't broke, break it, and see if you can't fix it to be better.” Rooting goes this latter route, and it is definitely–not–for everyone, but if you’re interested read on. If it does start to be a distraction, I’ll move it to a new thread.


 


Rooting lets you “break” into Android at the "root" firmware level, and tinker with things that neither Android or Onkyo (or your mother) want you to. I think it voids the warranty and there have been a couple cases here of people who have really “broken the OS” (i.e., "bricked" it.) If that happens you can’t just reboot, and you may not be able to get Onkyo's help, because you voided your warranty; it wasn't broke and you broke/bricked it. 
 


So why do it? 
 


I chose the DPX1 over the whole host of DAPs on the market. Cost was not an issue. I chose it because it is currently the highest performing DAP–with an open Android platform. Open Android is a nonnegotiable for me because it means I can use third party players, signal processing apps, and stream Tidal (perhaps with MQA before long). The problem is that the DSP available though Google-Play isn’t great. For example, I like Neutron but its virtualizer is, oddly, meant for speakers. Jet Audio has some usable DSP but it can’t stream Tidal. UAPP can stream Tidal, but it only has an EQ. Tidal-hifi is revolutionary but its app has no DSP at all. 
 


If you don't believe in DSP, there is no reason to root. Rooting will not increase the technical performance of the DPX1 hardware, fix the loose jacks, or make you a better person. For me, I believe that DSP is the future (that, and children). I am aware that the mass of consumer-grade DSP out there promises spectacular sound but only delivers artificial and degraded audio. And then, there's....
 


Viper4Android

Euphy Wong and Jasper Loo have developed software called Viper4Android, and it is a serious audio DSP "toolkit." It contains a whole array of processors starting with a great FIR (finite impulse response)-based EQ, various surround virtualizers, ways to extend highs and boost bass, a convolver!, etc. If you get carried away, or don't know what you're doing, you can easily wreck the beautiful sound of the Onkyo. Like a toolkit, you will only use a few of these, but the sheer variety ensures you're likely to find the tool you need. I only use the FIR EQ, and field surround. However, my real goal is to get Smyth Realiser presets on to the DPX1 via V4A’s convolver. Amazingly, it's all free, and unless I'm mistaken, it provides the most powerful and highest quality signal processing available on any mobile device bar none. 
 


The thing is, V4A requires rooting to use. But, by the same token, because it operates at the firmware level, you can apply it to Tidal or any other player. Unfortunately, getting it on to the DPX1 is anything but straightforward. It wouldn’t even be possible without the efforts of xVortex. He made the necessary coding adjustments to get the apps working specifically for the DPX1. He knows the technical details involved and was kind enough to share. I’ve provided links to some general articles and xVortex’s modified files (with permission) to get started below. As far as i know, none of the general instructions for installing V4A will work for the DPX1. You need to use xVortex’s files. Let me repeat again: this is–not–for everyone. If you get into trouble, sadly, I can’t help. Not that I don’t want to, but, I'm brand new to Android/Windows, and in the Mac world, they don't even trust us with two mouse buttons.
 


What I do know is that I’m listening to Tidal(hifi) with V4A thinking, “How did I get here?” I”m getting sound from a little oddly shaped box through tiny IEMs that occasionally fools me into thinking I’m listening to my home headphone system. If I get sober and critical, it’s not really that good (after all, my USB transport alone is worth more than the whole DPX1), but it is better than my desktop system of many years past. Mobile audio is moving forward and, given the limits of miniaturization, I believe it’s going to need DSP. The tech is there, but, right now, it’s not easily accessible. This means weighing the risk for yourself of going off the beaten path. Personally, it was so worth it that I couldn’t keep it to myself. In all practicality, I think the chances of rendering your unit inoperable are slight, but you should be aware of what you’re getting in to. In the end, if your pursuit of audio also makes it impossible for you to leave well enough alone, you may want to explore rooting and V4A. 
 


Rooting: 
[COLOR=011A99]http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-to/improve-sound-quality-android-5-audio-mods-for-better-sounding-music-videos-0162673/[/COLOR]
 


[COLOR=011A99]http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-root-android/2/#:pDRXrWD01AQNeA[/COLOR]
 


[COLOR=011A99]http://www.kingroot.net/tutorials[/COLOR]
 


In Android Settings set "developer options" to: "on" and make sure "USB debugging" is enabled. 

Custom Recovery:
[Once your device is rooted you need to install xVortex’s TWRP for DPX1. You cannot install a general custom recovery]
[COLOR=011A99]http://www.head-fi.org/t/780642/onkyo-dp-x1-dual-sabre-dacs-balanced-sabre-btl-amp-mqa-dsd-256-android-5/9300#post_12657959[/COLOR]
 


[you may need to install the adb driver]
 


[COLOR=011A99]https://developer.android.com/studio/run/win-usb.html[/COLOR]
 


[COLOR=011A99]http://visualgdb.com/KB/usbdebug-manual/[/COLOR]
 


[COLOR=011A99]https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html?hl=sk[/COLOR]
 


 


[COLOR=011A99]http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-flash-a-custom-recovery-like-CWM-or-TWRP-on-Android_id53914[/COLOR]
(for reference, do not follow these instructions)
 


 


SELinux and Busybox


Go to the Google-Play store, download and install both SELinux and Busybox. They're free.


Set SELinux to: "permissive.


 


Viper4Android:
[Once your devices is rooted and you have xVortex’s TWRP installed, use TWRP to install and flash xVortex’s V4A for DPX1]
[COLOR=011A99]https://mega.nz/#!1pUBkSxA!G1F2oGx5pcoKj8ROqXVh-luOyRV5KDSlwVzorJuTHB0[/COLOR]
 


 


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223


 


[COLOR=011A99]http://missingtricks.net/viper4android-android-install-guide/[/COLOR]
(for reference, do not follow these instructions)
 


 


Impulse Responses:
[COLOR=011A99]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2216193[/COLOR]
 


[COLOR=011A99]http://en.miui.com/thread-71540-1-1.html[/COLOR]
 


 


 


Can someone please repost the compiled TWRP recovery as the Mega link is dead? Also, does anyone have the stock recovery and bootloader? I seem to have killed my stock bootloader and can't get it back. Thanks.
 
Sep 1, 2016 at 5:47 AM Post #11,084 of 16,328
How about English ?
 
Sep 1, 2016 at 6:09 AM Post #11,085 of 16,328
How about English ?

google translated...
 
Onkyo and Pioneer Innovations, to "IFA2016" which kicks off in Germany from September 2, was notice to prototype a new high-resolution player two models of the Onkyo brand. And "digital audio player the next generation model of", and Android-based higher-model, to provide a compact model. Sales area and release date, price is undecided.



The next-generation model of normal size​




Android-based camera is also equipped with higher-order machine

 Model that it has "improved the last year was released digital audio player circuit design and the amplifier technology to brush up sound quality that was cultivated in the development of". The camera is also equipped with, has been positioned as a "new fun was also expanded, stylish next-generation model."

 DAC is equipped with two groups, corresponding to the balance drive.DAC chip and the amplifier is referred to as "the industry's highest level."Circuit design and the combination of attention, "Hi-Res sound source not only, CD ripping sound source, even higher sound quality even compressed sound source and streaming sound source" to being able to play.

 As a reproduction corresponding file, in addition to FLAC and WAV, DSD, also supports the MQA. OS is Android, corresponding to Google Play.Music, as well as video playback, such as game apps can also be utilized.

 The above-mentioned camera, rear camera 16 million pixels, the front of 800 million pixels. Display is 5 inches, adopted the touch panel LCD. Also built-in microphone and speakers.

 Bluetooth function is also equipped. Wireless LAN support. Also includes a microSD card slot, that it is an extension of up to a maximum of 328GB.


Balance drive supported by DAC 2 groups also in a small

 Display is 2.4-inch. The microSD card slot is equipped with 2 groups, it can be expanded up to 416GB.



Small model lineup​



 As with models of normal size, equipped with a 2 group DAC, corresponding to the balance driving. FLAC, WAV, DSD, corresponding to the reproduction of the MQA. Bluetooth, and wireless LAN capability to mount.

 

 

Onkyo and Pioneer Innovations, in "IFA2016" to be held in Berlin, Germany up to 7 days from September 2, the reference exhibit the pioneer brand of small-sized high-resolution audio player.



New portable audio player that Pioneer was announced at IFA 2016​



 Pioneer entered the portable audio player in the "XDP-100R" in 2015.In the IFA 2016 year to announce the smaller of the new model. It should be noted that, even in the Onkyo brand, new portable audio player 2 products are reference exhibitors.

 "To people who are not satisfied with the sound quality of smart phones, high-resolution, as well as enjoyment a variety of music sources to easily high-quality sound" in order, newly developed small portable players. A small while, equipped with a 2.4-inch touch panel LCD, corresponding to the balance driven by the "Twin DAC".

 FLAC, WAV, DSD, corresponding to the high-resolution music such as the MQA. In addition to the built-in memory, with dual microSD card slot, it can have a large capacity mosquitoes of up to 416GB. Also equipped with Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. Introduction timing and price, has been under consideration for the sale time.


 

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