ONKYO DP-X1 | Dual Sabre Dacs | Balanced | Sabre BTL Amp | MQA | DSD 256 | Android 5 |

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by t.r.a.n.c.e., Sep 11, 2015.
  1. bobbyP
    excuse my ignorance here with this product....but can I for instance download spotify and Amazon apps and play my stored music from Amazon cloud straight through the Sabre dac ? Same with spotify and ITunes ?
    Is it that simple ? Will it sound superior to my android phone ? As you can see I am not technically friendly and am basically afraid to purchase a DAP and not know how to operate it.
     
  2. strooper
    There's a lot of chatter here about how third-party apps utilize the DAC and amps. I've always avoided it. But I'm going to offer a answer here. The answer is yes. There is no other way for the Onkyo to do the digital-to-analog conversion (it's not being done by the system on a chip--that's pure digital) and it has to use the amp to boost the levels. Will it use both DAC chips for balanced output? That's a question I can't answer. But I can guarantee it will use at least one.

    The other part of sounding better is source quality. If you're feeding the DAC low-res mp3s, it can't make much of an improvement. All of the streaming and download sources you mention are mp3-quality. They vary in bit-rate. At the low-end of bit-rate, the only meaningful benefit the Onkyo has over a phone is a better amp. With high-quality sources, .e.g., Tidal, the DAC can make a HUGE difference.
     
  3. ponretdondore
    Hello everyone, I just recently upgraded to this DAP and I'm absolutely loving it so far. However, one thing I noticed is that the stock player has quite a bit of lag when scrolling through long lists, like albums for example. Is there any way to fix this or is just normal behavior?
     
  4. khestoi
    Someone is selling me a 2nd hand x1 for less than 200 dollars. Is that a good buy? I am currently leaning on buying a new 300r then i saw that deal. I have also heard that there are issues with the jack on the x1...

    How long does it take to fully charge the x1?

    Note: I only use IEMs.
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2017
  5. singleended5863
    If it has no issues it is a good deal. My DP-X1 has no issue of the balanced female plug since I bought it. The DP-X1 is charged faster than other DAP I have own. It’s usually charged 4-5 hours at most.
     
  6. Tennessee
    My second x1 has now broken 2.5mm port, they never fixed it apparently. Time to move on and forget about about this faulty devices. ^^
     
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  7. cuiter23
    The X1A fixed this problem. I don't think they did anything to revise the X1.
     
  8. Tennessee
    No they didn't, someone was speaking about that here some time ago, that added ring is not enough.
    I had both X1A and X1B.
     
  9. strooper
    I wish the X1A fixed this problem. I got my X1A back from Japan about two weeks ago after warrantee repair of the 2.5mm jack.
     
  10. strooper
    Here's my cheap "fix" for the delicate 2.5mm jack on the X1 (A, B, whatever). I took a piece of 1/16" thick thermoform ABS, cut it so it would slip between the X1 and the case and bent it with a hairdryer. I route the cord out the side through a small drilled hole (with a slice that I can bend to open it up). The short cord is the Amazon YCS 2.5mm TRRS extension. Cheap and right-angled. With this, I can put the X1 in my pocket jack side down. Then my pocket keeps the cord from moving, as does routing the cord through the small hole. The net result is almost no stress on the jack ever. And if I switch headphones, I do it on the cheap extension. The whole "fix" cost about 10 USD. More than worth it for some extra peace of mind. I totally babied my X1A for 7 months before the jack broke. I built this when I got the player back from factory repair. 20171108_113327.jpg
     
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  11. khestoi
    Looks like i will be removing this in my list due to the jack issues...
     
  12. Tennessee
    Very nice "fix", sadly I won't be using 5€ dongle with custom 250€ cable and I cannot find hi-end angled 2.5 dongle. :D
     
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  13. wormcycle
    How did it break exactly? I have DP-X1 and both 3.5 and 2.5 seem to be fine except there is some play between the connectors and the case. 2.5 feels way more solid than 3.5 for some reason. I was thinking about putting a drop of super glue just on the rim around the connector but do not want to ruin the whole thing. I am using DP-X1 most of the time with SE535 so I just keep them plugged in.
     
  14. strooper
    In the first few months that I owned the X1A, I changed headphones roughly twice a day, going from over-ears at work to in-ears at home. The jack felt steadily looser with time--not putting up much of a fight when inserting or removing the cable plug. That had me worried. That's when I bought a short extension to leave plugged in at all times.

    Then one day I lost a channel. When I unplugged my headphones to try another pair, the outer gold ring was visibly loose. I hadn't noticed any looseness with it before, but it was now barely holding onto the unit.

    These two problems (the jack not holding the plug tightly and the ring falling off) seem unrelated: the gold ring is not involved in "grasping" the plug.

    At any rate, I no longer insert/remove the plug from the X1A and it's shielded from anything pushing on it. Routing the wire out the side makes it harder for tension on the cable to pull on the plug itself. Not aesthetically pleasing. And my nice cables now end up going through six inches of who-knows-what kind of wire. If I could find a nice right-angle extension, I'd switch, but all the "audiophile" extensions I've found have straight plugs.

    I could use a straight plug and make the ABS extend further from the top of the X1A. In that case, I think it would make more sense to route the cable out the top of the guard. Perhaps wrapping it around somehow, so cable tension can't make it to the plug.
     
  15. wormcycle
    OK I am thinking of using a touch of super glue to to immobilize the outer gold ring. I wonder if anyone has done that.
     

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