ONIX Alpha XI1 - Smallest & Most Affordable ONIX DAC - High-Power Portable USB DAC/AMP

[ybbobserrot]

Así exactamente, no estoy en casa por eso no puedo mostrar como conecté, pero incluso yo sin conectarle energía me lo detecta

Sí, definitivamente estoy de acuerdo contigo. Me acabo de dar cuenta de esto hace un momento. Inicialmente compré esto el mes pasado y no pude hacerlo funcionar.

 

[Deckard001]

So this cable can solve the issue with the dac-phone issue? If yew, would be helpful a link for the cable.

 

[Edgore 17]

So this cable can solve the issue with the dac-phone issue? If yew, would be helpful a link for the cable.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_m04opB2
A mi me sirvió no se si con todos los teléfonos qué no es compatible sirva pero no es caro vale la pena intentarlo

 

[toimoi]

The product requires very low power < 1W. I tested with 150ohm redfilm headphones at 60 higain volume. It can be confirmed that the auxiliary power is not necessary, only devices that cannot output power need it.

 

[ybbobserrot]

The product requires very low power < 1W. I tested with 150ohm redfilm headphones at 60 higain volume. It can be confirmed that the auxiliary power is not necessary, only devices that cannot output power need it.

Well most phones people have do not work with Onix unless connected to auxiliary power. That has been considered a negative to an otherwise excellent and great sounding dac. You don't happen to have one of those incompatible phones would you?

 

[ybbobserrot]

So this cable can solve the issue with the dac-phone issue? If yew, would be helpful a link for the cable.

I saw this in Alieexpress.

 

[toimoi]

On my Windows 10 laptop, I found that listening through port A is better than plugging directly into port C. Does everyone else find this to be true?

 

[smegel]

Well most phones people have do not work with Onix unless comnected to auxiliary power. That has been considered a negative to an otherwise excellent and great sounding dac. You don't happen to have one of those incompatible phones would you?

Hmmm.
Seems to work fine w Apple iPhones.
Apple is the most popular brand of phone out there today.
Then you have your mix of Android phones. You could probably go down the list of Android phones and find many that are compatible.
(Note: Not getting into the Android vs Apple debate. Its about a single brand's popularity)

Also consider that many will use this dac w a laptop or PC.
And while power isn't the issue w a PC... the quality if the USB port comes into play.

Here I ran into an issue.
Directly off my laptop USB-C port. (M1Max Apple Macbook) no issues. ( Change settings w the Midi App and can send it 32bit 768Hz, the max that the Alpha can do)
When I tried it off my docking block... not recognized. When I tried the apple dongle... the sound was carp. [sic] Showed up as a realtek device. No issues when directly connect to the laptop. (Note: Powering both Dita Project M iem, and M&D's MW65 headphone.)

Sorry I digressed.
The point is that depending on the device powering and supplying the sound... YMMV.
Shanling admitted that they couldn't and didn't test this with every possible phone out there... Nor would I expect that.

The only way to guarantee a wide range of compatibility would be if they included a battery pack, which has its own issues, not to mention it would raise the cost and size.

I agree that using an external supply is an option, but then you end up being less portable defeating the purpose of the dongle dac, and where you would probably want a DAP of some sort. Which ups the price considerably.

 

[felixkopian]

On my Windows 10 laptop, I found that listening through port A is better than plugging directly into port C. Does everyone else find this to be true?

no.. it's better to connect directly to type c

 

[smegel]

On my Windows 10 laptop, I found that listening through port A is better than plugging directly into port C. Does everyone else find this to be true?

It wouldn't surprise me.
While I run Mac for my desktop, I built my Linux servers. IIRC the USB-A and USB-C are going thru different ports on the motherboard.
The other thing... what does your device show you in terms of voltage out on the USB-A port?

 

[toimoi]

It wouldn't surprise me.
While I run Mac for my desktop, I built my Linux servers. IIRC the USB-A and USB-C are going thru different ports on the motherboard.
The other thing... what does your device show you in terms of voltage out on the USB-A port?

The output voltage is equivalent.

 

[Deckard001]

The issue with Onix is the compatibility with many Android devices, and I do not think that every manufacturer test dongles to every device.

But here I think is an Shanling-Onix issue, as every other dongle dac/amp of the market which is not tested to every device, still is fully functional to every device. The issue occurs with Onix only.

 

[ybbobserrot]

Hmmm.
Seems to work fine w Apple iPhones.
Apple is the most popular brand of phone out there today.
Then you have your mix of Android phones. You could probably go down the list of Android phones and find many that are compatible.
(Note: Not getting into the Android vs Apple debate. Its about a single brand's popularity)

Also consider that many will use this dac w a laptop or PC.
And while power isn't the issue w a PC... the quality if the USB port comes into play.

Here I ran into an issue.
Directly off my laptop USB-C port. (M1Max Apple Macbook) no issues. ( Change settings w the Midi App and can send it 32bit 768Hz, the max that the Alpha can do)
When I tried it off my docking block... not recognized. When I tried the apple dongle... the sound was carp. [sic] Showed up as a realtek device. No issues when directly connect to the laptop. (Note: Powering both Dita Project M iem, and M&D's MW65 headphone.)

Sorry I digressed.
The point is that depending on the device powering and supplying the sound... YMMV.
Shanling admitted that they couldn't and didn't test this with every possible phone out there... Nor would I expect that.

The only way to guarantee a wide range of compatibility would be if they included a battery pack, which has its own issues, not to mention it would raise the cost and size.

I agree that using an external supply is an option, but then you end up being less portable defeating the purpose of the dongle dac, and where you would probably want a DAP of some sort. Which ups the price considerably.

iPhone/IOS is not that popular outside the US. Shanling should have tested low, mid and high end android phones with the Onix before releasing the for retail. Now they're going to have to accept that oversight as something that will cost them a huge chunk of lost sales. Comparing this with the iBasso DC07 also makes the design flaw more glaring. DC07 doesn't require extra power to turn on.

Oh well there's always Onix Alpha Xl2?

 

[ybbobserrot]

no.. it's better to connect directly to type c

Explain why.

 

[ybbobserrot]

The issue with Onix is the compatibility with many Android devices, and I do not think that every manufacturer test dongles to every device.

But here I think is an Shanling-Onix issue, as every other dongle dac/amp of the market which is not tested to every device, still is fully functional to every device. The issue occurs with Onix only.

Agree, it is a design flaw.