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Official Sony DMP-Z1 Thread
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Could you try SP1k to external DAC that has usb C ?I just tested and got resonably good results with this 12€ Amazone cable conecting my Laptop to my AK1000 . ! (at least good enough to try )
i used different usb-c to usb-c cable with my samsung s10e (and other android smartphone) with my dmp-z1, most cable work fine like this one:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32996603804.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dpGceP1&af=207464&afref=&cv=0&dp=0%3A%3A207464%3A%3Av030400011133c4aca44b721c4ea8b308ccd039bebffd%3A%3A%3A%3A1580316764&cn=19888&aff_request_id=dd6cc45f2d2c43e397e317f91f227fb3-1580316765109-06606-Y7bAZbY&aff_platform=aaf&cpt=1580316765109&sk=Y7bAZbY&aff_trace_key=dd6cc45f2d2c43e397e317f91f227fb3-1580316765109-06606-Y7bAZbY&terminal_id=9231522c1ca54e67becd3160aba429ee
but for streaming i like to use roon, so i first tried different raspberry pis with linux os and roonbridge (before moode audio or rune audio like this build: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2282585). to be honest the result with the raspberry pi platform with different dac was ok but not good, not bad as most smartphone but not realy better.
out of interest i buyed then one time a raspberry pi clone, a orange pi lite 2. but the image they provided was simpy bad, i wanted to made a mediaplayer out of it like kodi etc.
after months i grabbed the orange pi lite 2 again and found that in the meantime a stable image from armbian (armbian.com) exist. i installed this image and then roon bridge arm8 (https://kb.roonlabs.com/LinuxInstall). now the orange pi worked fine with a small image and to my surprise sounded better the any raspberry i used. i then checked the motherboard and the orange pi lite 2 has a better power distribution then any raspberry pi (more complex and better chips), furthermore a extra usb 3 port with his own chip.
so i build first a portable battery powered portable version and a second battery powered desktop version with his own charger, when running both are battery powered. both have a step up converter and a simply power filter:
these two are better sounding then a smartphone but not quite as good as my pimped aries femto. think this design could perform better with a battery powered TPS7A4700 regulator but like in the picture they cost under 30-50 usd. for a small price this orange pi lite 2 is a great streaming platform. but be warned, the support of this pi clone is minimal, was simply good luck that they perform well for my needs. to be fair, i was a blink away throwing my orange pi lite 2 away .
but back to the dmp-z1, when i stream tidal or my music library via usb to the dmp-z1 sounds nice, nothing you would miss. only when you listen to the same source file local stored on the dmp-z1 you realise this sound simply better, not so detail retrieval or soundstage but local played the music flows more natural and easy - hard to describe. the effect was similar when i used my aries.
for me this is more a example how tricky streaming over different devices is then that the usb is not good with the sony. i used with my big dacs all inputs, different streamer (reg. psu/roon rock via usb, 3 different aries, roku, other linux platforms) - from toshlink, rca, xlr, usb and i2s, results where always different and not constant from device to device, technically i2s with something like a singxer su-6 should be best but not with my denafrips (harsh with the su-6). think main factor is the implenentation of the dac side, my denafrips likes usb best, my old yggdrasil xlr and maybe sony is better over bluetooth.
at the end choosing a good network streamer is a hard bussiness, you spend often a lot of money for a more or less good linux platform, thus it's a good thing to experiment with cheap linux single board computer, you can then choose what servies are running, allways better runing as low servies as possible with your image.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32996603804.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dpGceP1&af=207464&afref=&cv=0&dp=0%3A%3A207464%3A%3Av030400011133c4aca44b721c4ea8b308ccd039bebffd%3A%3A%3A%3A1580316764&cn=19888&aff_request_id=dd6cc45f2d2c43e397e317f91f227fb3-1580316765109-06606-Y7bAZbY&aff_platform=aaf&cpt=1580316765109&sk=Y7bAZbY&aff_trace_key=dd6cc45f2d2c43e397e317f91f227fb3-1580316765109-06606-Y7bAZbY&terminal_id=9231522c1ca54e67becd3160aba429ee
but for streaming i like to use roon, so i first tried different raspberry pis with linux os and roonbridge (before moode audio or rune audio like this build: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2282585). to be honest the result with the raspberry pi platform with different dac was ok but not good, not bad as most smartphone but not realy better.
out of interest i buyed then one time a raspberry pi clone, a orange pi lite 2. but the image they provided was simpy bad, i wanted to made a mediaplayer out of it like kodi etc.
after months i grabbed the orange pi lite 2 again and found that in the meantime a stable image from armbian (armbian.com) exist. i installed this image and then roon bridge arm8 (https://kb.roonlabs.com/LinuxInstall). now the orange pi worked fine with a small image and to my surprise sounded better the any raspberry i used. i then checked the motherboard and the orange pi lite 2 has a better power distribution then any raspberry pi (more complex and better chips), furthermore a extra usb 3 port with his own chip.
so i build first a portable battery powered portable version and a second battery powered desktop version with his own charger, when running both are battery powered. both have a step up converter and a simply power filter:
these two are better sounding then a smartphone but not quite as good as my pimped aries femto. think this design could perform better with a battery powered TPS7A4700 regulator but like in the picture they cost under 30-50 usd. for a small price this orange pi lite 2 is a great streaming platform. but be warned, the support of this pi clone is minimal, was simply good luck that they perform well for my needs. to be fair, i was a blink away throwing my orange pi lite 2 away .
but back to the dmp-z1, when i stream tidal or my music library via usb to the dmp-z1 sounds nice, nothing you would miss. only when you listen to the same source file local stored on the dmp-z1 you realise this sound simply better, not so detail retrieval or soundstage but local played the music flows more natural and easy - hard to describe. the effect was similar when i used my aries.
for me this is more a example how tricky streaming over different devices is then that the usb is not good with the sony. i used with my big dacs all inputs, different streamer (reg. psu/roon rock via usb, 3 different aries, roku, other linux platforms) - from toshlink, rca, xlr, usb and i2s, results where always different and not constant from device to device, technically i2s with something like a singxer su-6 should be best but not with my denafrips (harsh with the su-6). think main factor is the implenentation of the dac side, my denafrips likes usb best, my old yggdrasil xlr and maybe sony is better over bluetooth.
at the end choosing a good network streamer is a hard bussiness, you spend often a lot of money for a more or less good linux platform, thus it's a good thing to experiment with cheap linux single board computer, you can then choose what servies are running, allways better runing as low servies as possible with your image.
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The thing I suspected is that Smartphones and Laptops have fully supported Type C interface....where as DAP are commonly even now a Pseudo-TypeC interfaces, which means it needs external OTG type of cables interfaces
So most of the Laptop and smartphones wont have problems being a digital source by Type C....but the DAP will have problem
So most of the Laptop and smartphones wont have problems being a digital source by Type C....but the DAP will have problem
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https://wooaudio.com/accessories/wooaudio-usb-cable
For an easily relocatable on-site streaming to DMP-Z1 solution, I use their 1m OTG C-C cable when using my Xperia 1 (running USB Audio Player Pro) as an end-point renderer for a (Asset UPnP) server.... immediate access to my 10TB library and it functions flawlessly.
For an easily relocatable on-site streaming to DMP-Z1 solution, I use their 1m OTG C-C cable when using my Xperia 1 (running USB Audio Player Pro) as an end-point renderer for a (Asset UPnP) server.... immediate access to my 10TB library and it functions flawlessly.
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I started using my iPhone 11 ProMax as a ROON endpoint with my WM1Z.
Interesting post above about USB Audio Player app (of which I am unfamiliar) which has UPnP capabilities paired with an Experia.
Can anything improve upon my iPhone solution which allows me to use streaming apps (Tidal & Qobuz) with my 1Z?
Is there a third party substitute cable which can perform better than the included USB/Walkman cable for checking my iPhone/CCK to the 1Z Walkman - or are they simply digital bits being transferred?
Interesting post above about USB Audio Player app (of which I am unfamiliar) which has UPnP capabilities paired with an Experia.
Can anything improve upon my iPhone solution which allows me to use streaming apps (Tidal & Qobuz) with my 1Z?
Is there a third party substitute cable which can perform better than the included USB/Walkman cable for checking my iPhone/CCK to the 1Z Walkman - or are they simply digital bits being transferred?
Rob49
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Does anyone think this will come down in price further at some point ?? Presently £ 6.743 on Amazon....i might be tempted below the £6.000 mark ?
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Sony MSRP will not come down in price, but it doesn’t mean dealer who has it laying around somewhere can not sell at lower price, if they wanted to move it bad enough. Though, I think DMP is flying out the door at many places
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DMP-Z1 is in high demand in the U.S. Sony needs to supply U.S. dealers more inventory.
LegionWolf
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DMP-Z1 is in high demand in the U.S. Sony needs to supply U.S. dealers more inventory.
Can get from dell.com
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/son...ayer-256-gb/apd/aa777461/audio?ref=p13n_rv_hp
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Looks like it is readily available from several places at the current list price.
Infoseeker
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CEOs probably put the Sony dmp-z1 as a company expense when ordering from Dell. XD
CEOs probably put the Sony dmp-z1 as a company expense when ordering from Dell. XD
I sure will be claiming my DMP-Z1 as doctor prescribed stress relief from travel stress syndrome.
finally put the Roon Nucleus+ into the mix
Cat9 ethernet into Netgear switch box with Mac Pro and Synology DS918 in the loop
one Samsung 2TB SSD into Roon Nucleus+ with DSD and iTunes files
settings in Sony DMP-Z1
high gain: off
audio muting off
battery preferred off
DAC filtering selection: Low dispersion short delay
Filtering/gain: slow roll off Gain: -3db
Sound Setting:
DSEE HX: on
Dynamic normalizer: on
Vinyl Processor: standard (yeah, this does sound nice for my vocals...)
ALSA as player with Roon - lossless path, only up to DSD128 though
Also, for those new to DMP-Z1, my unit never did reach 100% battery since opening the sealed box from Sony. has been 99% since....
Cat9 ethernet into Netgear switch box with Mac Pro and Synology DS918 in the loop
one Samsung 2TB SSD into Roon Nucleus+ with DSD and iTunes files
settings in Sony DMP-Z1
high gain: off
audio muting off
battery preferred off
DAC filtering selection: Low dispersion short delay
Filtering/gain: slow roll off Gain: -3db
Sound Setting:
DSEE HX: on
Dynamic normalizer: on
Vinyl Processor: standard (yeah, this does sound nice for my vocals...)
ALSA as player with Roon - lossless path, only up to DSD128 though
Also, for those new to DMP-Z1, my unit never did reach 100% battery since opening the sealed box from Sony. has been 99% since....
purk
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How do u like your DMP Paul?