Official Sony DMP-Z1 Thread
Jan 29, 2020 at 11:23 AM Post #1,576 of 4,315
I just tested and got resonably good results with this 12€ Amazone cable conecting my Laptop to my AK1000 . ! (at least good enough to try )

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Jan 29, 2020 at 12:50 PM Post #1,578 of 4,315
i used different usb-c to usb-c cable with my samsung s10e (and other android smartphone) with my dmp-z1, most cable work fine like this one:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32996603804.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dpGceP1&af=207464&afref=&cv=0&dp=0%3A%3A207464%3A%3Av030400011133c4aca44b721c4ea8b308ccd039bebffd%3A%3A%3A%3A1580316764&cn=19888&aff_request_id=dd6cc45f2d2c43e397e317f91f227fb3-1580316765109-06606-Y7bAZbY&aff_platform=aaf&cpt=1580316765109&sk=Y7bAZbY&aff_trace_key=dd6cc45f2d2c43e397e317f91f227fb3-1580316765109-06606-Y7bAZbY&terminal_id=9231522c1ca54e67becd3160aba429ee

but for streaming i like to use roon, so i first tried different raspberry pis with linux os and roonbridge (before moode audio or rune audio like this build: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2282585). to be honest the result with the raspberry pi platform with different dac was ok but not good, not bad as most smartphone but not realy better.

out of interest i buyed then one time a raspberry pi clone, a orange pi lite 2. but the image they provided was simpy bad, i wanted to made a mediaplayer out of it like kodi etc.

after months i grabbed the orange pi lite 2 again and found that in the meantime a stable image from armbian (armbian.com) exist. i installed this image and then roon bridge arm8 (https://kb.roonlabs.com/LinuxInstall). now the orange pi worked fine with a small image and to my surprise sounded better the any raspberry i used. i then checked the motherboard and the orange pi lite 2 has a better power distribution then any raspberry pi (more complex and better chips), furthermore a extra usb 3 port with his own chip.

so i build first a portable battery powered portable version and a second battery powered desktop version with his own charger, when running both are battery powered. both have a step up converter and a simply power filter:

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these two are better sounding then a smartphone but not quite as good as my pimped aries femto. think this design could perform better with a battery powered TPS7A4700 regulator but like in the picture they cost under 30-50 usd. for a small price this orange pi lite 2 is a great streaming platform. but be warned, the support of this pi clone is minimal, was simply good luck that they perform well for my needs. to be fair, i was a blink away throwing my orange pi lite 2 away :wink:.

but back to the dmp-z1, when i stream tidal or my music library via usb to the dmp-z1 sounds nice, nothing you would miss. only when you listen to the same source file local stored on the dmp-z1 you realise this sound simply better, not so detail retrieval or soundstage but local played the music flows more natural and easy - hard to describe. the effect was similar when i used my aries.

for me this is more a example how tricky streaming over different devices is then that the usb is not good with the sony. i used with my big dacs all inputs, different streamer (reg. psu/roon rock via usb, 3 different aries, roku, other linux platforms) - from toshlink, rca, xlr, usb and i2s, results where always different and not constant from device to device, technically i2s with something like a singxer su-6 should be best but not with my denafrips (harsh with the su-6). think main factor is the implenentation of the dac side, my denafrips likes usb best, my old yggdrasil xlr and maybe sony is better over bluetooth.

at the end choosing a good network streamer is a hard bussiness, you spend often a lot of money for a more or less good linux platform, thus it's a good thing to experiment with cheap linux single board computer, you can then choose what servies are running, allways better runing as low servies as possible with your image.
 
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Jan 29, 2020 at 1:36 PM Post #1,579 of 4,315
The thing I suspected is that Smartphones and Laptops have fully supported Type C interface....where as DAP are commonly even now a Pseudo-TypeC interfaces, which means it needs external OTG type of cables interfaces

So most of the Laptop and smartphones wont have problems being a digital source by Type C....but the DAP will have problem
 
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Jan 29, 2020 at 5:46 PM Post #1,581 of 4,315
I started using my iPhone 11 ProMax as a ROON endpoint with my WM1Z.
Interesting post above about USB Audio Player app (of which I am unfamiliar) which has UPnP capabilities paired with an Experia.

Can anything improve upon my iPhone solution which allows me to use streaming apps (Tidal & Qobuz) with my 1Z?

Is there a third party substitute cable which can perform better than the included USB/Walkman cable for checking my iPhone/CCK to the 1Z Walkman - or are they simply digital bits being transferred?
 
Feb 13, 2020 at 7:50 AM Post #1,585 of 4,315
Feb 13, 2020 at 6:49 PM Post #1,587 of 4,315
CEOs probably put the Sony dmp-z1 as a company expense when ordering from Dell. XD
 
Feb 13, 2020 at 11:59 PM Post #1,588 of 4,315
CEOs probably put the Sony dmp-z1 as a company expense when ordering from Dell. XD

I sure will be claiming my DMP-Z1 as doctor prescribed stress relief from travel stress syndrome. :)
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Feb 16, 2020 at 12:33 PM Post #1,589 of 4,315
finally put the Roon Nucleus+ into the mix
Cat9 ethernet into Netgear switch box with Mac Pro and Synology DS918 in the loop
one Samsung 2TB SSD into Roon Nucleus+ with DSD and iTunes files

settings in Sony DMP-Z1

high gain: off
audio muting off
battery preferred off
DAC filtering selection: Low dispersion short delay
Filtering/gain: slow roll off Gain: -3db
Sound Setting:
DSEE HX: on
Dynamic normalizer: on
Vinyl Processor: standard (yeah, this does sound nice for my vocals...)

ALSA as player with Roon - lossless path, only up to DSD128 though

Also, for those new to DMP-Z1, my unit never did reach 100% battery since opening the sealed box from Sony. has been 99% since....

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Feb 16, 2020 at 3:26 PM Post #1,590 of 4,315
How do u like your DMP Paul?
 

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