Official Schiit Vali 2 Thread

Discussion in 'Headphone Amps (full-size)' started by inseconds99, Dec 11, 2015.
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  1. inseconds99
    Schiit Vali 2 Released
     
     
    From Schiit's website.
     
    "The Most Serious Tube Design—Far Beyond its Price
    Some inexpensive (and not-so-inexpensive) tube amps don’t use tubes to their full potential, “starving” them with low plate voltages or using op-amp buffers for output. Not Vali 2. Vali 2 uses a unique, class-leading power supply that gives us 60V on the plate. Combined with a fully discrete, current-mode noninverting hybrid topology, Vali 2 redefines what you can expect from an affordable tube amp, even at 2x its price. 
     
    Roll Your Own Sound
    Vali 2 is supplied with a single NOS RCA 6BZ7 tube, which can be swapped for the same tubes we use in Lyr 2 and Mjolnir 2—feel free to use virtually any ECC88, 6922, 6DJ8, 2492, etc to “roll” the sound to your own preference. Plus, you only need a single tube, so rolling is easy and more affordable!
     
    Serious Power, Gain Switching, Preamp Outputs
    Vali delivers 1W into 32 ohms for hard-to-drive headphones—and, at the same time, offers a low gain mode for low-noise performance with sensitive headphones. You can also use the preamp outputs to add a tube preamp to your power amp or powered monitors. "
     
    http://schiit.com/products/vali-2
     
  2. mysticstryk
    Looking forward to impressions. Looks like another slick looking piece of good schiit!
     
  3. Badfish5446
    This update has put the Vali on my radar for a spare room, the ability to use spare 6922's from my Lyr setup is cool, as are the pre-outs and selectable gain.
     
  4. fjrabon
    Dang, lol, was that shade they threw at the Starving Student really necessary?
     
  5. sling5s

    1+
    So this mean you never have to worry about "matched pair" since your only using a singe tube?
    This could make buy tubes so easy and inexpensive. 
     
  6. mysticstryk

    Garage1217 does the same thing with their amps. Now we've got 2 quality tube amps under $200.

    Certainly makes for cheaper tube rolling.
     
  7. sling5s
    So this also mean no more microphonic and noise on low impedance sensitive headphones? 
    I'm also hoping that it doesn't have that little upper mid edginess. Vali 1 was great for warm or dark headphones but I found it didn't work so well with Grados or headphones with upper mid peaks for that reason.
     
  8. mysticstryk
    It's always entertaining to read through a new schiit FAQ list.
     
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  9. fjrabon

    yeah, I thought it was more or less a worst case pairing the with THX00.  Tubby bass, but also had that upper mids peak edginess too.  Plus no low gain, so bad dampening factor on low ohm headphones.  To me, this is a 1000X better product, at least on paper.
     
  10. Badfish5446
    Yeah but using a single tube for both channels could be problematic if the triodes aren't in balance, something to take into consideration.  Schiit's topology may make this a moot point but we won't know until someone more familiar with electrical engineering chimes in :)
     
  11. fjrabon

    Schiit says it's an issue and they have to have a highly internally matched dual triode tube to address this issue.
     
  12. inseconds99
    This could be a very interesting paring with the TH-X00's on low gain, I am curious to hear this amp myself. Might order one for my Christmas gift to myself very soon.
     
  13. sling5s
    I remember the hype when the Vali just came out: "sounds like a $1600 amp" or "think mini Current Eddie".
    Is the micro dynamics of the Vali 2 still there in spades like the Vali 1 or is it now just a really good $200 amp.
    Impressions...[​IMG] 
     
  14. mysticstryk

    Hype can be a terrible drug...
     
  15. Vader2k
     
    Your impressions on the Vali/TH-X00 pairing made me not even bother to plug the TH-X00 into it and I instead use the Magni.  I always run my K7XX on the Vali, though and really like the tube sound.  The Fidelio X1 is decent off it, though it doesn't do the already loose bass of the X1s any favors.
     
    This looks like it just might solve my problems and allow me to use one affordable tube amp for all my cans!
     
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