[kadamian]

 
Have you also been able to hear the Flat4 Keyaki line? Impressions on those are rare. Even ohm image hasn't wrote anything about them. 

I suspect all flat4's share nearly identical sound signature - the drivers are the same, the only difference is cabinet material
 
I've had the sakura and now the kaede II the difference is really negligible maybe kaede II is a bit more even across FR...

 

[audio123]

I suspect all flat4's share nearly identical sound signature - the drivers are the same, the only difference is cabinet material

I've had the sakura and now the kaede II the difference is really negligible maybe kaede II is a bit more even across FR...

yes u r right but the new flat 4 keyaki is more balanced.

 

[kadamian]

 
I suspect all flat4's share nearly identical sound signature - the drivers are the same, the only difference is cabinet material
 
I've had the sakura and now the kaede II the difference is really negligible maybe kaede II is a bit more even across FR...

how is it compared to kaede?
 
I still can't find an iem that will surpass the ocharaku...akt8ie came close but the soundstage is narrower and has less air...I am waiting for a true new generation flat4 to be released not just incremental changes in cabinet size, etc...
 
I even thought ordering kayak ti plus but couldn't find and detailed info and comparisons to flat4 regarding sound sig

 

[audio123]

how is it compared to kaede?

I still can't find an iem that will surpass the ocharaku...akt8ie came close but the soundstage is narrower and has less air...I am waiting for a true new generation flat4 to be released not just incremental changes in cabinet size, etc...

I even thought ordering kayak ti plus but couldn't find and detailed info and comparisons to flat4 regarding sound sig

hey get the flat 4 keyaki. It is more balanced sounding as opposed to the v shaped sound of kaede 2 and sakura plus. You wont regret
Kaede 2 has the widest soundstage followed by flat 4 keyaki then sakura +

 

[iems0nly]

Have you also been able to hear the Flat4 Keyaki line? Impressions on those are rare. Even ohm image hasn't wrote anything about them. 

Nope.. haven't got any other Ocharakus I buy these from Amazon.jp or cdjapan if they do international shipping. Haven't been able to find any site which ships the higher range Ocharaku models. I'm really curious about the Donguri Keyaki, and how it compares to Nami and other twin driver models. Any insights on this?

 

[iems0nly]

Wow thanks for the comparison. NAMI's the only one i've heard but man it really has the most remarkable stage layering in the width I have encountered in 20+ iem. I probably should have held onto them but I already had ex1000 which were somewhat similar in tuning and still my favorite iem.

Is the ex1000 as wide as Nami?

 

[Raketen]

Is the ex1000 as wide as Nami?

nah... it has a fairly open presentation for iem (i'm not great at picking up these detials though) but not the 'out of head' layering like I remember from NAMI especially in width

 

[iems0nly]

nah... it has a fairly open presentation for iem (i'm not great at picking up these detials though) but not the 'out of head' layering like I remember from NAMI especially in width

Thanks for that! you saved me a bunch of monies

 

[sonickarma]

don't think anyone has this set up apart from me 

 

 

[audio123]

don't think anyone has this set up apart from me 

opus 2 with aka kaede?

 

[sonickarma]

opus 2 with aka kaede?

almost - Opus 2 with AKA BALANCED Kaede

 

[kadamian]

almost - Opus 2 with AKA BALANCED Kaede

wish i could take a listen

 

[audio123]

wish i could take a listen

will u be getting the new flat 4 keyaki? Feel like getting one myself

 

[Raketen]

Thanks for that! you saved me a bunch of monies

Yeah I guess like NAMI was for me it could be a little redundant for you. Still I find the presentation nice with a good source, just doesn't have that "out of head" sensation in my experience.

Incidentally, I have read here the owner of Ocharaku was the supervisor on the Sony EX-series IEM project before he retired and started his tea & iem company, pretty cool

 

[kadamian]

will u be getting the new flat 4 keyaki? Feel like getting one myself

me too
however i am thinking about donguri ti plus as well...just can't find trusted reviews on them (the guy over jyrab blog is developing a massive cross reference review on donguri/kaede/sakura/kaedeII)