Solrighal
Headphoneus Supremus
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I can't remember what it was that's supposed to be difficult with the AKG's. I'll be able to let you know soon enough ![Grinning :grinning: :grinning:](https://cdn.head-fi.org/e/people/grinning.svg)
Whatever sound the O2 has, it benefits the M-100 from my experience; the soundstage opens up a bit. I don't use the O2 with the M-100 though since it's too loud for me, but if you lower the digital volume it should be fine.Does the O2 benefit headphones such as the V-Moda M-100? I wouldn't have thought so myself but what do I know?
I can't remember what it was that's supposed to be difficult with the AKG's. I'll be able to let you know soon enough![]()
It is the sensitivity, which is the other thing along with impedance that figures into how hard a set of headphones is to drive.
The current AKG701's have a sensitivity of 105dB/V from AKG's specification sheet. That means with 1V(rms) into the headphones you will get a sound pressure level (SPL) of 105dB.
A rule of thumb for headphone amps is to be able to hit 120dB, which is just as ear-splittingly loud as most folks would ever want to get headphones. The O2 headamp can muster 7V(rms) of output swing, which would give:
SPL = 105dB(SPL)/V + 20log[7V(rms)] = 121dB, which hits the mark.
BUT... then you have to check the current draw at that voltage swing and make sure the amp can sink/source that, too.
[deleted part of an excellent analysis]
Then what happens if the transformer rating is too small is the iron core saturates, which can create distortion in the voltage and current output, and the transformer heats up more than normal. Whether that AC power input distortion makes it to the O2 amp output would depend on a lot of factors with the regulator chips and the op amp PSRR. You might never hear it. But for $3 more or so between the 400mA WAU16-400 and 1A WAU16-1000, might as well get the 1A secondary if you are ordering that O2 transformer for the first time and have a harder to drive pair like the 701.![]()
I feel like I've stumbled into some kind of alternate reality. I now know exactly why I'm driving a van for a living. This is way over my head guys. I've re-read that twice now and I still don't know if my new amp and headphones are gonna work out.
How difficult would it be to replace the existing transformer with the one that you mentioned? A simple re-soldering job?
Hi,
when 16 bit audio data is mapped to 24 bit words this means multiplying by 256 or shifting left by 8, which is the same. The missing bits on the right hand side are set to 0.
EDIT: This multiplication is necessary in order to keep the volume equal for 16 bit and 24 bit mode. I one just kept the same numeric value in 24 bit as in 16 bit, the music would be inaudibly quiet. Thanks to user r010159 for pointing out that I was a bit quick here.
16 bit word:
1001100110011001
24 bit word - high 16 bits same as before followed by 8 zero bits:
100110011001100100000000
If you're then halving the volume all words are divided by 2 or shifted to the right by 1 - left side is padded with zero bits again:
010011001100110010000000
So what you loose is one of the zero bits on the right hand side which were added by converting 16 to 24 bit.
In the case of native 24 bit material the case is a little bit different but not much:
100110011001100110011001
now we half the volume by dividing by 2 or shifting right 1 place - left side is padded with zero bits again:
010011001100110011001100
So we effectively lost the least significant bit on the right hand side which can be ignored since
a) the effective resolution of the best 24 bit DACs is only 21 bits and often less - so an error in the least significant bit will not be measurable
b) because human hearing can only resolve 16 bits of dynamic range anyways
EDIT: Please note that this argument is a bit simplified by assuming unsigned integers. In reality we need signed numbers and in 2's complement notation multiplication and left shifts are not equivalent. But in essence it's the same in 2's complement - namely for data scaled from 16 to 24 bits no data is lost by setting software volume to 50% and for 24 bit data the least significant bit is lost.
Joachim
Literally plug'n'play - you just get the 1A wall wart, plug that and are ready to go.
Joachim
FWIW: I use the Epiphany acoustics O2/DAC to drive my HE-500's in my office setup. These are lower sensitivity (about 89 dB) 38 Ohm cans. Not ideal with the O2, it simply lacks oomph for these. Tried changing the stock wall wart to a higher grade one but to my ears it makes no difference. I'm ok listening at low/moderate volume to classical but if I dial in gain and crank up the volume quality suffers big time. I applaud agdr's explanation and design efforts but if I were him and with his obvious technical knowledge: build something new from the ground up and market it. I'm not big on incremental development to adjust a design, better in general to start from a white page imo.
I would have the thought the O2 could deal with those easily.