Sep 3, 2010 at 8:23 PM Post #16 of 32


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We pride ourselves at providing high performance DAC/HP amp at very affordable prices.  Certain manufacturers we worked with provide slightly modified versions of their products, even with modified firmware for Nuforce, and that allows Nuforce to offer performance that far exceeds the sum of the parts.
 
By the way, we like your comment on the circuit, even though not all are correct. You know your stuff :)


Do I sense a job offer coming? 
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Sep 4, 2010 at 4:13 AM Post #17 of 32
Thanks for the kind words. I'm impressed that you have the buying power to get your own custom chip labels, let alone your own firmware. Of course going that route is going to attract some level of speculation.
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Your uDAC-2 is clearly a very polished product and is a joy to use. I wish you every success with it.
 
 
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We pride ourselves at providing high performance DAC/HP amp at very affordable prices.  Certain manufacturers we worked with provide slightly modified versions of their products, even with modified firmware for Nuforce, and that allows Nuforce to offer performance that far exceeds the sum of the parts.
 
By the way, we like your comment on the circuit, even though not all are correct. You know your stuff :)



 
Sep 4, 2010 at 4:28 AM Post #18 of 32
We are a very small company. Being a high performance company has its advantage where some suppliers are keen to work with us because they can use us as a reference. uDAC and OPPO BDP-83SE Nuforce Edition were displayed at ESS's demo room at CES last year. I am not implying that we use customized chip from ESS. 
 
Sep 5, 2010 at 10:34 PM Post #19 of 32
My uDAC-2 just arrived a few minutes ago; extremely speedy service considering that it travelled nearly half the globe in order to get here. Looks like I'll be busy tonight.
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Sep 19, 2010 at 6:07 AM Post #22 of 32


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I just ordered a uDAC-2, can't wait for it to get here
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I did the same. I heard the uDAC at a meet in Berlin and it had a very surprising synergy with my Grado SR325i. I went home and ordered the uDAC-2 hoping it will sound just as good - maybe better?
 
From what I can read the DAC-section is better in the uDAC-2. So does anyone know if the AMP-section is the same in the uDAC as in the uDAC-2 ? 
 
Sep 19, 2010 at 7:01 AM Post #24 of 32


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The uDAC-2 has improved headamp section.


I hope improved does not mean different sound signature??? Has anyone done a comparison between the uDAC and the uDAC-2 ?
 
Sep 20, 2010 at 3:59 AM Post #26 of 32


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No idea because I haven't ordered the uDAC-2.I doubt it would change a lot though. Did you check out the uDAC-2 thread?


Aahhh - thanks! I didn't even know a uDAC-2-thread existed 
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Sep 26, 2010 at 9:31 AM Post #27 of 32
I've had the uDAC-2 long enough now to be able to review it with some confidence. Let's give it a shot.
 
Preamble: It's $129, well into impulse buy territory for most audiophiles. All you need to know is whether it does what it's supposed to (it does) and whether it sounds decent (it does)... the rest is petty details. However if you want the nitty gritty, read on.
 
For $129, it justifies itself on functionality of a 24bit 96kHz capable USB-spdif converter alone. Every thing else is a bonus.
 
The line out is more correctly a preamp out, as the output level is adjusted by the volume control. It's not a USB DAC, but rather a USB DAC+preamp. This could be a feature or an annoyance depending on what you propose to use the line out for.
 
Finally there is the headphone amplifier, which automatically switches off the preamp output when a headphone is plugged into the socket. This switching could again be considered a feature or an annoyance.
 
If you stick to using it as as the volume control in minimalist PC sound system, either with headphones or external power amp and speakers, the way it's configured is intuitive and straightforward.
 
When the uDac is plugged into a Windows PC the OS automatically detects the device and routes the audio to it, turning off the default audio device. So it is "plug and listen", zero hassle.
 
 
Perhaps though it is "peace of mind" that is the most useful feature of the uDac-2: With this tiny little box you are guaranteed a consistent audio experience, regardless of whatever computer you happen to be using. For me this counts for a lot.
 
Case studies.
 
Case 1. Denon AH-C260 IEH (16 ohms, ~$40), uDac-2 vs. Realtek ALC272 HDaudio codec (Samsung n310 netbook)
 
I wanted to begin this by concluding that with inexpensive headphones like these low end Denons there really want any audible difference - but the fact of the matter is that music sounded more realistic and was far more enjoyable through the uDac. The AH-260 has fairly limited frequency response and a mid-bass hump to compensate, but is a nice enough sounding headphone overall. 
 
 
Case 2. Denon AH-C700 IEH (16 ohms, ~$150), uDac-2 vs. Realtek ALC272 HDaudio codec (Samsung n310 netbook)
 
The AH-C700 has a much wider frequency response, and as a result the comparison between the uDAC and the netbook's headphone out was more complicated. Yes, the uDac was more realistic, more hi-fi... but the higher resolution headphones were able to detect some roughness in the treble, roughness which increased with playback volume of the uDac. The ALC272 was mushy, but comparatively smooth.
 
Case 3. Sennheiser HD-600 (300 ohms, ~$300) uDac-2 headphone out vs. uDac-2 preamp out into Twilight 6CG7/FET mu-stage headphone amplifier.
 
The uDac-2 headphone amp with the HD-600 gave a result typical of the HD-600 paired with low voltage solid state headphone amps: reasonably ok but lacking the "grip" needed to get the best from these 'phones. No bass response, small, collapsed soundstage. Treble was smooth though. The preamp out to the mu-stage, with the two volume controls set at arbitrary values, put the headphone amp of the uDac in it's place with authority. The good news to take from this though is that the preamp out of the uDac is fine, excellent even, and it's not insult to the uDac to say it can't drive HD-600's. Very few headphone amps in the world today can.
 
Conclusion
 
Seems the headphone amp is a little starved for current. Otherwise full marks.
 
Sep 26, 2010 at 10:35 AM Post #28 of 32
Using it with my imac, it is auto detected.
1 thing to note, default setting is only 16bit. I manually change it to 24bit.
 
Working nicely with my sr60i & soundmagic pl30, can feel the increase in bass.
 
Sep 28, 2010 at 12:44 PM Post #30 of 32
Hello,
 
could you please post the details about udac2 volume pot?
I have udac1 and I'd like to replace the pot.
 
I know that it differs in the on/off functionality ... perhaps the pinout is different as well.
Haven't opened my udac1 yet.
 

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