NEWS: Meridian Releases The Explorer Pocket-Sized USB DAC
Apr 2, 2013 at 9:26 PM Post #707 of 1,072
Apr 3, 2013 at 12:37 PM Post #710 of 1,072
Years ago I had a pair of Kef Reference 102s. Loved them.

Currently I've got a Mac Mini > iTunes/BitPerfect > Rega Brio-R > The B&Ws.

I recently upgraded to the Rega when my NAD gave up, and between the Rega and the ME, I'm realizing that the speakers are kind of dull.
 
Apr 3, 2013 at 10:13 PM Post #713 of 1,072
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Makes perfect sense.  
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   You should be able to hear some micro-details that you wouldn't be able to discern in the Dragonfly.   Maybe the Explorer's power management is handling noise from your PC better than the Dragonfly does.   
 
Again, I'm compelled to address the subject of how important it is to have clean power.  All of these USB-powered DACs are vulnerable to PC noise - it's a classic trade off between quality of experience and convenience.
 
 
Even this $675.00 Bel Canto uLink USB to S/PDIF converter was improved by using clean, external 5V power:
 
 
Michael Lavorgna uses the Dragonfly powered by the iFi iUSBpower at his personal computer desk.  
 
Again, I've never used the iFi iUSBPower myself, but I trust Michael Lavorgna's reviews and I know how much lower the noise floor is when comparing my USB-powered CEntrance DACport LX to my CEntrance DACmini CX, which literally re-manufactures the power coming in from its switch-mode AC adapter.
 
I'm just suggesting that, within reason, we should be forgiving of any PC noise issues experienced with the Meridian Explorer and every other USB-powered DAC.  Convenience nearly always comes at a cost.  
 
If you're going to use one of these meant-to-be-portable USB-powered DACs as a dedicated desktop DAC, you might want to try using clean, external 5V power.   I think the iFi iUSBPower is reasonably priced at $199. 
 
Here's a $329 5-Volt external power supply (evidence that some people are willing to pay a lot more for clean power):  The Channel Islands VDC•5 MKII
 
Hint:  If using a laptop instead of a desktop PC, try comparing the noise floor of your USB-powered DAC as heard when running the laptop on battery power vs. when the laptop is plugged into an AC outlet.  When I owned a USB-powered Stoner Acoustics UD100 (an ESS9023 DAC), one of my laptops, a Toshiba L505, exhibited a dramatic reduction in noise heard at the headphones when I ran the laptop on battery power.
 
 
Mike

 
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Hint:  If using a laptop instead of a desktop PC, try comparing the noise floor of your USB-powered DAC as heard when running the laptop on battery power vs. when the laptop is plugged into an AC outlet.  When I owned a USB-powered Stoner Acoustics UD100 (an ESS9023 DAC), one of my laptops, a Toshiba L505, exhibited a dramatic reduction in noise heard at the headphones when I ran the laptop on battery power

What noise floor?
I use a modern Toshiba Satellite S-series laptop (released in June 2012) and the ODAC and O2 (as two separates) along with the Beyerdynamic DT 880 (250 Ohm- 2005 Edition) and the sound is very clear and clean and I love it.
No noise, buzzing, whining, etc. It pays to have a modern laptop as a transport.
 
Apr 4, 2013 at 12:22 AM Post #714 of 1,072
JakeJack_2008, I believe the noise floor issue goes well beyond the brand or vintage of computer you have - most Head-Fiers didnt stagger into computer audio yesterday .... the serious arguments around such minuatiae are best left to the forums at Computer Audiophile and our own Sound Science diehards. Suffice it to say that there are *always* 'blacker' blacks - if Chris Connaker is still finding that, I think we all have a way to go to reach our ideal rig.
 
Apr 4, 2013 at 10:22 AM Post #716 of 1,072
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Aprpos this:
 
 
What noise floor?
I use a modern Toshiba Satellite S-series laptop (released in June 2012) and the ODAC and O2 (as two separates) along with the Beyerdynamic DT 880 (250 Ohm- 2005 Edition) and the sound is very clear and clean and I love it.
No noise, buzzing, whining, etc. It pays to have a modern laptop as a transport.

 
I'm genuinely happy for you that your USB-powered DAC (different make and model than what I use), in combination with your Toshiba laptop (different model), and your amp (different make and model) and your headphones (different make and model), and your cables (different make and model), exhibit no evidence of a noise floor when listening with your ears.  
 
That's awesome.  You have no problem that needs fixing, and apparently, no incentive to experiment with external 5V power supplies.  That's great!
 
 
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Mike
 
Apr 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM Post #717 of 1,072
Hi.
 
A few people have asked about using the Meridian Explorer with an iPad via
the Camera Connection Kit (CCK).  I thought I'd post about my experience.
 
I just purchased the Meridian Explorer from Todd the Vinyl Junkie (thanks,
Todd, for the service and fast ship) with the expectation of using it with my
iPad (original model) and Mac.  I was only half confident that it would work
with the iPad as there was a post in this thread saying it did not work,
but a video on YouTube showing the ME working with and iPad 2. 
 
My first attempt at using it with the iPad failed with "The connected USB
device is not supported".  This was using a cheapo no-name USB 2.0
4 port hub for power.  I thought all hope was lost since the same test
with an Audio Engine D1 worked. However, I also did not want to dismiss
the YouTube video and thought that it may be because of different IOS
software versions (my original iPad will only runs IOS 5 will the iPad 2
will run IOS 6)... could it be that Apple added additional drivers in IOS 6?
 
Not wanting to concede so quickly, I tried again a while later with a different
USB hub.  This time a no-name USB 3.0 hub.  To my surprise, it worked!
I was even able to play 24/192 files using "FLAC Player" (three LEDs lit up
on the ME, indicating it was receiving 192KHz). 
 
Anyway, to make a long story short, the ME does work with the iPad and
the CCK.  However, whether it works or not depends on the USB hub
you are using to power the device.
 
Apr 6, 2013 at 2:49 PM Post #719 of 1,072
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Nice! 
 
Thanks for sharing that information.
 
Mike
 
Edit:  To operate independent of an AC outlet with the iPad > Meridian, you could try using a 5V battery pack to power the Meridian, while getting only data from the iPad. See this post.

 
 
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Nice! 
 
Thanks for sharing that information.
 
Mike
 
Edit:  To operate independent of an AC outlet with the iPad > Meridian, you could try using a 5V battery pack to power the Meridian, while getting only data from the iPad. See this post.

First of all, thanx to Mike in post #717.
 
Now, this is a very interesting post. Thanx for the interesting link as well.
 
Apr 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM Post #720 of 1,072
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To operate independent of an AC outlet with the iPad > Meridian, you could try using a 5V battery pack to power the Meridian, while getting only data from the iPad. See this post.

 
Hi, zilch0md.
 
Thanks for the link.  Coincidentally, I have a similar cable lying around (I never did
know what it was used for, but at least I know now) and gave it a shot.  However,
I'm sad to report that it did not work for me.  I still got the power warning.
 
Thinking about it further, I'm not surprised it failed.  The problem is that the device
(in this case the ME) reports to the host (iPad) over USB how much power it requires.
The iPad then uses this to determine if it can provide sufficient power to drive the device.
When using a powered USB hub, the hub reports to the host how much power it needs
to operate and not it's children devices.  Since it's a powered hub, it's probably under
the maximum amount that the iPad can provide.  The hub basically "hides" the power
consumption of the ME from the iPad.
 
When using the USB dual power cable, it is just providing power to the ME.  The ME
does not know that the power is from an external power source and not the iPad, so
it thinks things are fine and dandy:  It does not "downgrade" the power requirements it
reports to the iPad, and there is nothing in between to filter out the power reporting.
Hence, the iPad still thinks it does not have enough power to drive the ME.
 
This is at least my understanding... I'm sure someone will correct me if this is not
accurate.  Anyway, it was worth a try.
 

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