New Site Platform Bug Reports and Feedback Thread

[samandhi]

Many such threads will probably end up dying on the vine as a result of this policy. So I hope a better approach can be found.

Maybe even allowing two posts rather than a single post COULD help, though I would rather they went back to not enforcing such a rule.

 

[ADUHF]

Having said that, my statement about understanding the need for it, it wasn't actually as much about spam by users per se'. It was more about people in the industry trying to ply their weirs via a message board (not that they don't already get enough advertisement space as it is IMO). I have seen a company using a regular account to post advertising in multiple threads to get people to buy their products. This, to me is very disruptive to the conversations that are going on in such thread. This is just a guess as well.

Spamming can occur without using consecutive posts. So the current policy on consecutive posting isn't necessarily a solution to that problem. I suspect that most spam is quickly reported and removed here though already. I haven't been as active here recently, but can't remember the last time I saw an example of malicious spamming on the forum. Others' experiences may differ though.

It was also mentioned in another thread here that using aliases, sockpuppets, or asking others to bump a thread is also forbidden under the posting guidelines. Just fyi.

 

[samandhi]

It was also mentioned in another thread here that using aliases, sockpuppets, or asking others to bump a thread is also forbidden under the posting guidelines. Just fyi.

And yet they still happen at an alarming rate. Just in the last few weeks, I have seen brand new accounts come into a thread I frequent, just to post advertisements about products, or reviews that are very obviously paid shills for said comapnies.or, posts directly from sponsors that aren't about conversing with others, but simply advertisements, and the same post in another thread (cross posting), which is supposed to be forbidden.

Spamming can occur without using consecutive posts. So the current policy on consecutive posting isn't necessarily a solution to that problem. I suspect that most spam is quickly reported and removed here though already. I haven't been as active here recently, but can't remember the last time I saw an example of malicious spamming on the forum. Others' experiences may differ though.

I dont disagree with this at all. Nor have I seen much in the way of malicious spamming.

 

[plakat]

So it happens I came back to this thread just for that "feature" being discussed right now...

I came across this new policy (or enforcement) some time ago already, but it gets in the way again and again. When answering/reacting to different posts that have nothing in common, I normally always used separate posts to facilitate following up. Same if I want to answer to something and post something completely unrelated. Now this became impossible -- and I think that is a real problem: Now I would have to mangle to responses into one post, so a person answering to one of my responses needs to edit out the other part. Thats not just inelegant, but will spread confusion.

So I urge you to reverse that, or maybe bin it to more specific preconditions (like a new account is not allowed to post in classifieds under a certain post count).

 

[Light - Man]

Could it be that some new members are spamming threads in order to get their post count over a certain level, so that they become allowed to post for 'sale stuff' in the classifieds?

Do the Mods have any comments or suggestions that could overcome the problems mentioned here in recent weeks?

I personally am not too bothered by it, even though it can also effect me for some of the threads that I have started.

 

[ADUHF]

So it happens I came back to this thread just for that "feature" being discussed right now...

I came across this new policy (or enforcement) some time ago already, but it gets in the way again and again. When answering/reacting to different posts that have nothing in common, I normally always used separate posts to facilitate following up. Same if I want to answer to something and post something completely unrelated. Now this became impossible -- and I think that is a real problem: Now I would have to mangle to responses into one post, so a person answering to one of my responses needs to edit out the other part. Thats not just inelegant, but will spread confusion.

So I urge you to reverse that, or maybe bin it to more specific preconditions (like a new account is not allowed to post in classifieds under a certain post count).

I tend to agree with this as well.

 

[joe]

Hello, members of the Head-Fi community.

First, I want to thank you for all of your feedback regarding a recent change we made regarding the ability to make multiple posts in a row on Head-Fi's forums.

We understand this was a big change, and admittedly, we did not handle this change as well as we should have with regard to our passionate community's view of the implementation. For that, I apologize to you, the community. Please know that we have been reading your comments, and we've made an update to allow posts to be made consecutively by a user if there's been no replies in 24 hours.

We strongly encourage the community to utilize the multi-quote option when replying to a number of posts in a thread at once, or editing a post to add additional information, but we do understand there are definite use cases where we should allow them to occur. A few examples of this are:

• posting a reply to a thread after a reasonable about of time has passed without being replied to
• updating a meet thread with more details or a quick reminder
• adding additional posts for a review thread for different sections
• updating a project thread

While our Posting Guidelines have been in place for a number of years as some have noted, it wasn't as strictly enforced. We implemented this moderation tool to help the moderating team in a number of situations. A few examples are:

• curb multiple posts in a row where posts are made in rapid succession, creating multiple notifications for users following the thread
• aid moderators in situations where users will spam posts for new permissions
• reduce instances where ranting or flame-baiting posts are made, resulting in long thread clean-ups

These are a few of the situations for which the adjustment had been made. These examples don't add to the community, and in turn, add noise and increase the workload on our dedicated moderating team.

All that being said, we have heard you, and we have made a change to help with some of the issues where the implementation just didn't work. Of course, if you have a specific case in which you would feel you would need more frequent posting, please send me a PM.

Hopefully, for the community at large, you'll be back to your regularly scheduled program with this adjustment.

Thank you for your understanding and patience as we went through this process, and we'll see you on the forums.

 

[2leftears]

Hello, members of the Head-Fi community.

First, I want to thank you for all of your feedback regarding a recent change we made regarding the ability to make multiple posts in a row on Head-Fi's forums.

We understand this was a big change, and admittedly, we did not handle this change as well as we should have with regard to our passionate community's view of the implementation. For that, I apologize to you, the community. Please know that we have been reading your comments, and we've made an update to allow posts to be made consecutively by a user if there's been no replies in 24 hours.

We strongly encourage the community to utilize the multi-quote option when replying to a number of posts in a thread at once, or editing a post to add additional information, but we do understand there are definite use cases where we should allow them to occur. A few examples of this are:

• posting a reply to a thread after a reasonable about of time has passed without being replied to
• updating a meet thread with more details or a quick reminder
• adding additional posts for a review thread for different sections
• updating a project thread

While our Posting Guidelines have been in place for a number of years as some have noted, it wasn't as strictly enforced. We implemented this moderation tool to help the moderating team in a number of situations. A few examples are:

• curb multiple posts in a row where posts are made in rapid succession, creating multiple notifications for users following the thread
• aid moderators in situations where users will spam posts for new permissions
• reduce instances where ranting or flame-baiting posts are made, resulting in long thread clean-ups

These are a few of the situations for which the adjustment had been made. These examples don't add to the community, and in turn, add noise and increase the workload on our dedicated moderating team.

All that being said, we have heard you, and we have made a change to help with some of the issues where the implementation just didn't work. Of course, if you have a specific case in which you would feel you would need more frequent posting, please send me a PM.

Hopefully, for the community at large, you'll be back to your regularly scheduled program with this adjustment.

Thank you for your understanding and patience as we went through this process, and we'll see you on the forums.

Thank you very much for considering the member feedback on this issue.

The minimum 24-hours required between consecutive posts seems like a very workable solution, as many had already suggested in their feedback.

I'm sure this revised policy enforcement will be appreciated by the wider Head-Fi community.

 

[Hiker816]

Hello, members of the Head-Fi community.

First, I want to thank you for all of your feedback regarding a recent change we made regarding the ability to make multiple posts in a row on Head-Fi's forums.

We understand this was a big change, and admittedly, we did not handle this change as well as we should have with regard to our passionate community's view of the implementation. For that, I apologize to you, the community. Please know that we have been reading your comments, and we've made an update to allow posts to be made consecutively by a user if there's been no replies in 24 hours.

We strongly encourage the community to utilize the multi-quote option when replying to a number of posts in a thread at once, or editing a post to add additional information, but we do understand there are definite use cases where we should allow them to occur. A few examples of this are:

• posting a reply to a thread after a reasonable about of time has passed without being replied to
• updating a meet thread with more details or a quick reminder
• adding additional posts for a review thread for different sections
• updating a project thread

While our Posting Guidelines have been in place for a number of years as some have noted, it wasn't as strictly enforced. We implemented this moderation tool to help the moderating team in a number of situations. A few examples are:

• curb multiple posts in a row where posts are made in rapid succession, creating multiple notifications for users following the thread
• aid moderators in situations where users will spam posts for new permissions
• reduce instances where ranting or flame-baiting posts are made, resulting in long thread clean-ups

These are a few of the situations for which the adjustment had been made. These examples don't add to the community, and in turn, add noise and increase the workload on our dedicated moderating team.

All that being said, we have heard you, and we have made a change to help with some of the issues where the implementation just didn't work. Of course, if you have a specific case in which you would feel you would need more frequent posting, please send me a PM.

Hopefully, for the community at large, you'll be back to your regularly scheduled program with this adjustment.

Thank you for your understanding and patience as we went through this process, and we'll see you on the forums.

Bravo, Moderators! This seems like a reasonable compromise between competing objectives, and one which will benefit everyone on the forum. It should prevent a lot of useful threads from going dark, too. Thank you!

 

[rids57]

Thank you Admins/Mods for listening to the feedback and coming up with an eminently workable compromise

 

[sygnus21]

We understand this was a big change, and admittedly, we did not handle this change as well as we should have with regard to our passionate community's view of the implementation. For that, I apologize to you, the community. Please know that we have been reading your comments, and we've made an update to allow posts to be made consecutively by a user if there's been no replies in 24 hours.

Thank you. And a 24-hour wait period is a fair compromise I can get behind.

Thanks.

 

[GREQ]

If you leave a web tab open overnight and send a message the next day, you become a time traveller!

 

[MrWalkman]

If you leave a web tab open overnight and send a message the next day, you become a time traveller!

Time is calculated based on the time of your computer when the tab was opened.

When you left the tab open, it was April 12th at 23:00. When you posted the messaged, it's April 13th, 09:00. Because the tab was left open on April 12th, 23:00, and no refresh of the page was done, it thinks it's still April 12th at 23:00, so this is why it says "Tomorrow".

 

[number1sixerfan]

I was extremely vocal on this and I just want to say good job to the moderators listening and making a reasonable compromise. I totally figured there were solid reasons as to why it was done, but the 24hr threshold is a really big help. The communication here is also transparent and understandable. Thank you!

Edit* one recommendation, and I'm sure it's on the radar, is to allow the ability to correctly quote someone/insert quote in making a post edit. That would be a big help and also likely cut down on multiple posts.

 

[samandhi]

Edit* one recommendation, and I'm sure it's on the radar, is to allow the ability to correctly quote someone/insert quote in making a post edit. That would be a big help and also likely cut down on multiple posts.

Agreed!

There is a bit of a workaround that works, until they can fix it:

Select the text you want to quote (or the whole post). Then hit insert quotes in a new post, and add it. Copy all the text from that new post, and then edit your existing post and paste it. Now you have a proper quote in your existing text, and can delete the text in the new post box.

This is a bit of a hassle, I know, but it is at least possible to do to add quotes to existing posts. Otherwise, you are stuck just doing a copy/paste in the existing post, and adding the generic header of "quote=username" in bbcode.

Hope this makes sense?!