[krmathis]

OverlordXenu. Lets not turn this thread into a Apple (Mac) vs. Microsoft (Windows)/other vendors discussion. But short said, I like Apple products because they are very well designed and 'just' works. Every single time...

 

[OverlordXenu]

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Originally Posted by krmathis /img/forum/go_quote.gif OverlordXenu. Lets not turn this thread into a Apple (Mac) vs. Microsoft (Windows)/other vendors discussion. But short said, I like Apple products because they are very well designed and 'just' works. Every single time...

So you pay a premium for design? And my Windows boxes work fine, as do my linux servers...Saying it "just works" means nothing.

 

[nelamvr6]

OK you two, knock it off!

Do you want to get this thread locked?

 

[K2Grey]

I think Apple's products are viewed as user friendly due in large part to marketing, as opposed to having superior user friendliness.

 

[krmathis]

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Originally Posted by OverlordXenu /img/forum/go_quote.gif So you pay a premium for design?

Nope! I pay for a complete package, where design is a part of the deal.
Please point me to a portable computer with all features of the MacBook Pro, for less money.

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And my Windows boxes work fine, as do my linux servers...Saying it "just works" means nothing.

Good for you!

I believe most of those who bash Apple products. Especially their computers and Mac OS X have not lived with one for an extended period, and hence don't really know what they are talking about.

 

[nelamvr6]

IBFTL

 

[dehory]

The Rockbox devs sound pretty pessimistic about porting Rockbox to the iPod Classic...

 

[omendelovitz]

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Originally Posted by error401 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I don't think this action will slow Rockbox at all. It's not even really related; Rockbox doesn't use the iTunes DB that this hash protects, so I don't see how it would be affected. It is true that Rockbox doesn't run on the new iPods, but that is due to a hardware architecture change and required reverse-engineering effort. It's pretty unlikely that Apple made these changes to block Rockbox; they were done to cut costs. Even if it is hacked, we shouldn't continue purchasing them. This is a clear slap in the face, and even if the community can overcome the limitation, why support a product and company that treats you like that? Then again, I could've said that before I bought one due to the proprietary file structure/naming/index for no reason other than to make the device inflexible...

w/o apple's hardware specs for the DAC and analog outs, good luck reverse engineering this ipod...

 

[sandys]

Further info on why Rockbox looks unlikely
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.p...1&cid=20609159

It seems that Nano 2'nd Gen has the same issue that it uses a hash - not only for the songs database, but also for the firmware. The hardware *refuses* to load unencrypted firmware.
The Nano 2'nd Gen issues have not yet been resolved (after what... a year?)

Time to hope for a good Creative 160gb....

 

[nelamvr6]

Well, I wish the RockBox guys luck, I hope they can pull it off. they're pretty clever guys...


But if they can't this spells the end of me and iPods.

 

[luckypictures]

Between this and the calendar crippling, it seems Apple is starting to slowly cripple their products more and more.

 

[monolith]

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Originally Posted by krmathis /img/forum/go_quote.gif Nope! I pay for a complete package, where design is a part of the deal. Please point me to a portable computer with all features of the MacBook Pro, for less money.

I'm actually curious about what features an out-of-the-box Macbook (Pro) has that a Windows running laptop can't have after a day's worth of software-getting. If you have any examples of such, please list them.

 

[mamboman]

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Originally Posted by Night Surfer /img/forum/go_quote.gif No Mediamonkey or Winamp? DEALBREAKER!!!

Definitely sucks for me. Sigh.. just received my iPod 6G

 

[mamboman]

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Originally Posted by MCC /img/forum/go_quote.gif The new iPod has officially been crossed off my list. If I can't sync from Linux, it's totally useless.

Yup, it sure is. iTunes is a heap of crap

 

[mamboman]

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Originally Posted by nelamvr6 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Well this has certainly made me think less of apple. I am certain that I won't be buying one of the new models unless I can put rockbox on it, so they're losing business by this action.

They see us as only a small market. Most average Joe doesn't care beyond iTunes