New Dragonfly Black and Red Discussion

[Macduff]

Enjoying my new DFB. Using it with a 2015 MBP and bose qc-25. I used and enjoyed a Fulla 1 about 6 months ago. I can't do a side by side comparison, but the DFB and Fulla 1 are both great, both demonstrating a significan't improvement upon my laptop's sound even through the bose (sound is better with active noise cancellation on the headphones engaged). All types of files up to 24/96 show improvement.  

 

[Rdwng1975]

Does anyone know if I connect a dragonfly red or black to my iPhone if I will get 64 volume steps? Or do I just get the iPhones limited volume steps?

 

[CalvinW]

Does anyone know if I connect a dragonfly red or black to my iPhone if I will get 64 volume steps? Or do I just get the iPhones limited volume steps?

You just get the iPhone's volume steps.

 

[gdpeck]

Does anyone know if I connect a dragonfly red or black to my iPhone if I will get 64 volume steps? Or do I just get the iPhones limited volume steps?

You can actually get a little bit more granular control if you use the volume slider on the control center as shown here:

 
I have a DFB and the built-in steps using the volume buttons are pretty big jumps. I mostly listen with pretty efficient headphones though such as NAD Viso HP 50 or vmoda XS.

 

[CalvinW]

  You can actually get a little bit more granular control if you use the volume slider on the control center as shown here:

 
I have a DFB and the built-in steps using the volume buttons are pretty big jumps. I mostly listen with pretty efficient headphones though such as NAD Viso HP 50 or vmoda XS.

 
This is useful when you don't have Parkinson's disease. When I use it, it just goes all over the place. Wish they offered smaller increments when using the buttons.

 

[Rdwng1975]

You can actually get a little bit more granular control if you use the volume slider on the control center as shown here:



I have a DFB and the built-in steps using the volume buttons are pretty big jumps. I mostly listen with pretty efficient headphones though such as NAD Viso HP 50 or vmoda XS.

Do you know if resolution is lost using this control method?

 

[Ocelot 80]

So... I ordered by mistake (don't ask why) a magni 2 amp by shiit. Anyone knows if pairs good with the DFB? Should I be worried about double amping?

 

[gdpeck]

Do you know if resolution is lost using this control method?

I have no idea.

 

[Rdwng1975]

You can actually get a little bit more granular control if you use the volume slider on the control center as shown here:



I have a DFB and the built-in steps using the volume buttons are pretty big jumps. I mostly listen with pretty efficient headphones though such as NAD Viso HP 50 or vmoda XS.

How is the DFB's sound with the HP50 vs the iPhone headphone jack?

 

[CalvinW]

How is the DFB's sound with the HP50 vs the iPhone headphone jack?

The iPhone headphone jack sounds great, and the DF buzzes and crackles like a Mofo. Surprisingly, the iPhone 7 headphone dongle actually sounds better than the built in jack on the iPhone 6. FYI, I have the HP30

 

[gdpeck]

How is the DFB's sound with the HP50 vs the iPhone headphone jack?

I honestly haven't done much a/b 'ing with the DFB. I have had it since April 2016, and have mostly just enjoyed it without comparing much. My sense was that everything sounded generally better and more musical. Just now I did some quick a/b test of a couple of songs. These are both streamed in FLAC from Logitech Media Server via iPeng 9. I tried to match the levels by ear. Nothing scientific.
-No Excuses by Alice in Chains with the DFB more separation between the harmony and lead vocals. cymbals sound more real, and there is more space for all instruments. Seems more like music than a bunch of sounds mashed together. Frequency response isn't much different. Everything just seems to fit together more cohesively, and the song is more involving. 
-I Try by Macy Gray. More of the same. Rythym section is driving the song. Electric bass sounds more musical. It's easier to notice details like the organ in second verse. Vocals are more lifelike.
 
HP50 through the headphone jack sounds nice, and if I never heard the DFB, I would be very satisfied with it. But music is just better with the DFB. I hope this helps.
 
Edit: Forgot to mention that I used the iPhone 6s with the original slim CCK. I have both the slim and USB 3 CCKs, and have never heard a crackle from either one. I also have two DFBs because one was lost under the seat of my car for a while, and neither of them crackle.

 

[Rdwng1975]

The iPhone headphone jack sounds great, and the DF buzzes and crackles like a Mofo. Surprisingly, the iPhone 7 headphone dongle actually sounds better than the built in jack on the iPhone 6. FYI, I have the HP30

Are you using the newer cck that is supposed to fix that noise?

 

[Rdwng1975]

I honestly haven't done much a/b 'ing with the DFB. I have had it since April 2016, and have mostly just enjoyed it without comparing much. My sense was that everything sounded generally better and more musical. Just now I did some quick a/b test of a couple of songs. These are both streamed in FLAC from Logitech Media Server via iPeng 9. I tried to match the levels by ear. Nothing scientific.
-No Excuses by Alice in Chains with the DFB more separation between the harmony and lead vocals. cymbals sound more real, and there is more space for all instruments. Seems more like music than a bunch of sounds mashed together. Frequency response isn't much different. Everything just seems to fit together more cohesively, and the song is more involving. 
-I Try by Macy Gray. More of the same. Rythym section is driving the song. Electric bass sounds more musical. It's easier to notice details like the organ in second verse. Vocals are more lifelike.

HP50 through the headphone jack sounds nice, and if I never heard the DFB, I would be very satisfied with it. But music is just better with the DFB. I hope this helps.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I used the iPhone 6s with the original slim CCK. I have both the slim and USB 3 CCKs, and have never heard a crackle from either one. I also have two DFBs because one was lost under the seat of my car for a while, and neither of them crackle.

It does. Thank You!

 

[jegnyc]

The iPhone headphone jack sounds great, and the DF buzzes and crackles like a Mofo. Surprisingly, the iPhone 7 headphone dongle actually sounds better than the built in jack on the iPhone 6. FYI, I have the HP30

Did you install iOS 10.2?  After I did, the crackling on my 6s was gone (using the old CCK).
 
I can't swear it was cause and effect - but it certainly happened.

 

[catroni]

Newb question:
 
- is the SQ better from the iphone 6s AUX compared to the iphone 7 lightning?
 
Thanks in advance.