New desktop USB DAC&AMP - FiiO K3 (E30),384K/32b,DSD DOP,typeC
Dec 23, 2018 at 8:48 PM Post #106 of 208
I recently received k3. It is amazing dac. But have one problem with it. Has anyone have tried K3 in windows 10 pc. Don't know why LED color doesn't change when i am changing from 48 to 192 khz or higher. Using foobar 2000. It changes only when i manually set in windows speaker properties - default format (for example 48, 192, or other). Only then led color changes. Does it mean that k3 doesn't recognize input that is coming in from pc? For example i have tried to play from my android mobile using as a usb dac- everything is fine. LED color changes according the input it receives. Why then it doesn't changes automatically in windows 10 pc. So if somebody has this new k3 and tried in windows pc configuration, can share their experience? Other than this little problem i am more than happy with my k3. It is really amazing dac/amplifier.
Are you using the WASAPI or ASIO pluggin? Make sure you're outputting through the correct device, check your Preference\Output\Device. For example - Preference\Output\Device\WASAPI (EVENT) : Schiit Jotunheim

Good luck!
 
Dec 24, 2018 at 2:21 AM Post #107 of 208
Are you using the WASAPI or ASIO pluggin? Make sure you're outputting through the correct device, check your Preference\Output\Device. For example - Preference\Output\Device\WASAPI (EVENT) : Schiit Jotunheim

Good luck!
Thanks a lot ! Seems it helped. Installed WASAPI and set output to wasapi K3 (push) because WASAPI (EVENT) option made some distortions when playing 192 khz( don't know why). Now led of K3 is changing color automatically as it should be according input it receives. By the way asio i installed didn't had K3 option so i couldn't set it to go trough asio to K3 directly in foobar 2000. Only see asio for my sound card of pc. With wasapi this option in foobar2000 output appeared after installation.
So one more time thanks for help, going to try how k3 accepts dsd streams now. Very happy k3 user, fiio are making incredible things in this price region.
 
Dec 24, 2018 at 3:44 AM Post #108 of 208
Thanks a lot ! Seems it helped. Installed WASAPI and set output to wasapi K3 (push) because WASAPI (EVENT) option made some distortions when playing 192 khz( don't know why). Now led of K3 is changing color automatically as it should be according input it receives. By the way asio i installed didn't had K3 option so i couldn't set it to go trough asio to K3 directly in foobar 2000. Only see asio for my sound card of pc. With wasapi this option in foobar2000 output appeared after installation.
So one more time thanks for help, going to try how k3 accepts dsd streams now. Very happy k3 user, fiio are making incredible things in this price region.
Dear friend,

Are you using the DS output previously? If yes, the output frequency is depended by the settings in windows speaker properties of K3.
If you are using ASIO output(please install the DAC driver first) instead, the output frequency will be depended by the music file itself.
How to play DSD format when the K3 is connected with the computer: https://www.fiio.com/newsinfo/130090.html

Best regards
 
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Dec 24, 2018 at 8:12 AM Post #109 of 208
Dear friend,

Are you using the DS output previously? If yes, the output frequency is depended by the settings in windows speaker properties of K3.
If you are using ASIO output(please install the DAC driver first) instead, the output frequency will be depended by the music file itself.
How to play DSD format when the K3 is connected with the computer: https://www.fiio.com/newsinfo/130090.html

Best regards
Thanks for help, yes first i have used DS output so now i know that should use different output. I also made settings according the given instructions in the link. Everything works fine with asio output now, but there is some problem left with DSD 256, Till DSD 256 everything works just fine. Dsd 64, 128 works without problem. But when trying to play DSD 256 version receive "Unrecoverable playback error: Sample rate of 705600 Hz not supported by this device". Perhaps the newest foobar version that i am using is making this, because according the instruction it should work after setting everything correct. But this instruction was written when foobar version was Foobar2000(v1.3.8). Now foobar2000 is 1.4.1 (maybe it's not supported now). Because i found that some guy with Q1 M2 dac had the same problem with dsd 256. Don't know if he have solved it. Somebody with K3 and DSD256 version, could share their experience, are you getting the sound in foobar 2000?
 
Dec 25, 2018 at 9:44 PM Post #110 of 208
Hello, I want to buy a DAC for my PC. I currently own the following headphones/IEM's: Grado SR80e, Marshall Major III wired, KZ ZSN, KZ AS10. I am using Foobar2000 + ASIO4ALL driver + FLAC files but I am not satisfied by the sound quality.
What do you recommend between the Fiio K3 and the FX-Audio DAC-X6? I am asking specially the people that have had both of the devices in test.
 
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Dec 25, 2018 at 11:43 PM Post #111 of 208
Hello, I want to buy a DAC for my PC. I currently own the following headphones/IEM's: Grado SR80e, Marshall Major III wired, KZ ZSN, KZ AS10. I am using Foobar2000 + ASIO4ALL driver + FLAC files but I am not satisfied by the sound quality.
What do you recommend between the Fiio K3 and the FX-Audio DAC-X6? I am asking specially the people that have had both of the devices in test.
The K3 is the better option IMO: DSD support, smaller footprint, gain settings, bass boost. The only reason the X6 would be better is if you need the optical input / RCA output.
 
Dec 27, 2018 at 3:33 AM Post #112 of 208
Thanks for help, yes first i have used DS output so now i know that should use different output. I also made settings according the given instructions in the link. Everything works fine with asio output now, but there is some problem left with DSD 256, Till DSD 256 everything works just fine. Dsd 64, 128 works without problem. But when trying to play DSD 256 version receive "Unrecoverable playback error: Sample rate of 705600 Hz not supported by this device". Perhaps the newest foobar version that i am using is making this, because according the instruction it should work after setting everything correct. But this instruction was written when foobar version was Foobar2000(v1.3.8). Now foobar2000 is 1.4.1 (maybe it's not supported now). Because i found that some guy with Q1 M2 dac had the same problem with dsd 256. Don't know if he have solved it. Somebody with K3 and DSD256 version, could share their experience, are you getting the sound in foobar 2000?
Dear friend,

You may try the 1.3.8 version in our website to see if it helps: https://www.fiio.com/newsinfo/130090.html
Not sure whether you have install all the components needed if you are using v1.4.1.
 
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Dec 27, 2018 at 3:44 PM Post #113 of 208
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Dear friend,

You may try the 1.3.8 version in our website to see if it helps: https://www.fiio.com/newsinfo/130090.html
Not sure whether you have install all the components needed if you are using v1.4.1.

Best regards
Still no luck with older version. Asio isn't playing native dsd (no sound) only with PCM i can play DSD format, but it converts it to PCM. So returned to newest version. There wIth DSD wasapi output i can play dsd till 128 option, but no 256 (receive error).
Interesting thing in Foobar it shows when i am playing DSD file - sample rate as it should be, but in Fiio control panel window i see when playing 128 DSD -sample rate 352800HZ. I made photo where it is shown. Why fiio control panel reporting incorrect different sample rate data. K3 dac shows green light so it should receives full DSD signal.
 
Dec 27, 2018 at 10:41 PM Post #114 of 208
Dear friend,

I am not sure whether you have set correctly.
Please try this foobar directly to see if it helps: http://fiio-file.fiio.net/DSD/foobar2000.zip (no need to install, just unzip and you could use directly.)
Please switch the output to ASIO:foo-dsd-asio if the software failed to play your DSD file.
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Best regards
 

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Dec 28, 2018 at 11:37 AM Post #115 of 208
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Dear friend,

I am not sure whether you have set correctly.
Please try this foobar directly to see if it helps: http://fiio-file.fiio.net/DSD/foobar2000.zip (no need to install, just unzip and you could use directly.)
Please switch the output to ASIO:foo-dsd-asio if the software failed to play your DSD file.



Best regards


Thank for trying to help. Downloaded, unziped your file. Opened foobar2000 from there, found foo_dsd_asio. Checked it, then opened few dsd files to play, but it is terminated. Receive the message in the screen. But it doesn't play anything, even simple music files, the same message. When i set to different output - FIO ASIO driver, then i receive sound but only with files till DSD (44 -192 KHZ). With DSD it is playing but i receive silence. Perhaps could arrange some connection to my pc trough TeamViewer to check settings. Thanks
 
Dec 30, 2018 at 4:56 AM Post #116 of 208
So after extensive testing and trying to play native DSD on K3 (with windows 10) using foobar2000 and can say that it's not supported as it should be. Tried everything, every possible configuration. Few remarks.
1. First - K3 doesn't work with ASIO : foo_dsd_asio output component. So don't know why in every instruction i found on internet is written that you should check this output.
2. It works with ASIO: Fiio ASIO driver output, but no DSD support with this output option
3. It also works with DSD: ASIO: Fiio ASIO driver output, but plays only till 128DSD. Trying to play DSD256 - receiving error :Unrecoverable playback error: Sample rate of 705600 Hz not supported by this device. Also this option works but only in PCM mode, so maximum sample rate i am receiving is 352800 HZ when playing dsd128. As it should be 5644800 Hz natively. This i see on Fiio control panel Asio status:
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So after all i think is here some fiio drivers issue as it's a new product or foobar . But at the moment you cant play K3 DSD natively with foobar or any other way as fiio states. Installed everything according official instructions few times, so all needed components are installed. Plays only after installation of latest FiiO_USB_DAC_Driver-V4.47.0, but with them only in PCM mode, so no native dsd support. That's current status. Don't know if anyone have managed to play DSD natively with foobar. if yes - please share - what settings and does it really plays DSD256 with native sample rate (not PCM mode).
Thanks
 
Dec 30, 2018 at 12:47 PM Post #117 of 208
So after extensive testing and trying to play native DSD on K3 (with windows 10) using foobar2000 and can say that it's not supported as it should be. Tried everything, every possible configuration. Few remarks.
1. First - K3 doesn't work with ASIO : foo_dsd_asio output component. So don't know why in every instruction i found on internet is written that you should check this output.
2. It works with ASIO: Fiio ASIO driver output, but no DSD support with this output option
3. It also works with DSD: ASIO: Fiio ASIO driver output, but plays only till 128DSD. Trying to play DSD256 - receiving error :Unrecoverable playback error: Sample rate of 705600 Hz not supported by this device. Also this option works but only in PCM mode, so maximum sample rate i am receiving is 352800 HZ when playing dsd128. As it should be 5644800 Hz natively. This i see on Fiio control panel Asio status:

So after all i think is here some fiio drivers issue as it's a new product or foobar . But at the moment you cant play K3 DSD natively with foobar or any other way as fiio states. Installed everything according official instructions few times, so all needed components are installed. Plays only after installation of latest FiiO_USB_DAC_Driver-V4.47.0, but with them only in PCM mode, so no native dsd support. That's current status. Don't know if anyone have managed to play DSD natively with foobar. if yes - please share - what settings and does it really plays DSD256 with native sample rate (not PCM mode).
Thanks
Sorry if this has been suggested already but have you checked the audio device settings in Windows?

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Dec 30, 2018 at 12:56 PM Post #118 of 208
Sorry if this has been suggested already but have you checked the audio device settings in Windows?


Hello, yes these setting are set as in your pic. So maximum what i can set there is 384000 hz, as windows support only this. But DSD should go higher. Exclusive mode is set also. So this part is correct as it should be. Thanks for it anyway.
 
Dec 30, 2018 at 1:03 PM Post #119 of 208
Hello, yes these setting are set as in your pic. So maximum what i can set there is 384000 hz, as windows support only this. But DSD should go higher. Exclusive mode is set also. So this part is correct as it should be. Thanks for it anyway.
I used to get frustrated with Foobar200 too. Now I use JRiver and it's so much simpler, even though I rarely listen to DSD files.
 
Dec 30, 2018 at 1:10 PM Post #120 of 208
I used to get frustrated with Foobar200 too. Now I use JRiver and it's so much simpler, even though I rarely listen to DSD files.

I understand you as dsd also not so important to me. But just trying to make everything work as it should be. As fiio states that it should play till dsd256. But with foobar is some unexplainable problems. For me it also seem a little bit complicated with foobar2000. Forhaps need to try other programs. Just to make sure it works till max as it should :) Never have used jriver. Does it support dsd ?
 

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