New Burson Conductor - V2 and V2+
Jul 14, 2016 at 10:11 PM Post #406 of 1,276
Indeed Jerick, it's not rocket surgery!!
Ivebeen using Audirvana for over five years now... bonkers I'd be so silly to miss that.
Apologies if I ever gave the impression it was an issue with the DAC. DAC works perfectly.

By the way, does anyone know the difference between the two DOP settings?
I'll try both.
 
Jul 14, 2016 at 10:20 PM Post #407 of 1,276
Indeed Jerick, it's not rocket surgery!!
Ivebeen using Audirvana for over five years now... bonkers I'd be so silly to miss that.
Apologies if I ever gave the impression it was an issue with the DAC. DAC works perfectly.

By the way, does anyone know the difference between the two DOP settings?
I'll try both.

 
The 1 and 1.1 are revisions of the DoP standard.  They give you both revisions for compatibility reasons.  You can read about the differences here: 
 
http://dsd-guide.com/dop-open-standard
 
Jul 15, 2016 at 12:54 AM Post #409 of 1,276
Sweet - appreciate that Victor :thumbsup_tone3:

 
Hey no problem.  Glad to help.  By the way my name is Jeff.
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Jul 15, 2016 at 1:17 AM Post #410 of 1,276
My apologies Jeff!!
No clue why I thought Victor posted that link. .. Probably thought he was the Mac guy..
Someone isn't very on the ball today... :expressionless:

Happy to be able to be resample PCM up to 128DSD now... Which is perhaps the biggest reason for me wanting a DSD capable DAC.
 
Jul 20, 2016 at 10:18 PM Post #411 of 1,276
My apologies Jeff!!
No clue why I thought Victor posted that link. .. Probably thought he was the Mac guy..
Someone isn't very on the ball today... :expressionless:

Happy to be able to be resample PCM up to 128DSD now... Which is perhaps the biggest reason for me wanting a DSD capable DAC.

 
Hey no problem.  Enjoy your DSD files on your MAC!
 
Jul 23, 2016 at 11:59 AM Post #415 of 1,276
So I've been going back and forth between the V2+ and Air for a couple of hours now. I've been listening to my regular demo list with two different laptops running MediaMonkey with identical settings in both Windows and MM. I've been using my modded T50RP's and some LZ A4 prototype IEM's (wife's home so no open cans yet wink.gif ).

I've got to say that I'm super impressed with the performance from the little Air unit. It comes very close to the V2+ in sound quality and signature. I really don't like talking numbers when it comes to sound but in lack of anything better I'll do an exception and say that based on my rather short listening session with a couple of not super revealing headphones and IEM's the Air has probably 85-90% of the sound from the V2+. As a lover of the V2+ this is of course excellent news, to be able to bring most of the V2+ sq with me wherever I go.

The V2+ may have slightly more air, a bit more controlled and deeper bass but the difference is not big. Apart from that the overall signature is very similar. The V2+ of course has a lot of other features like significantly more power, toslink, coaxial and a couple of analog inputs etc.

I'll do the same exercise again when putting my review together but that time I'll be using some of my more revealing open headphones but so far this really seems as the perfect portable unit for anyone loving the sound of the V2+.
 
Jul 29, 2016 at 9:57 PM Post #418 of 1,276
I just wrote up some impressions on the CV2+ With the Timekeeper Virtuoso I was testing. My focus was on the TV. While I appreciate this is head-fi, I thought some of you might be curious.

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Burson's new Timekeeper Virtuoso is a damn sexy amp. It has the precision of a Swiss watch, the dynamic kick of a mule and seduction of new love. It looks magnificent under the Conductor. Superb industrial design, me thinks. It looks heavy. But feels heavier than I imagined. One quibble I have is about the LEDs. Personally, I would prefer an LED to be more understated. I really dig the Burson aesthetic, though.

Rig

FireWire drive + Mac mini (2010) + Audirvana Plus, with upsampling to DSD -> Burson Conductor V2+ -> Burson Timekeeper Virtuoso -> Gallo Strada + TR-3 sub

Reference amp: Scientific Audio Technology (SAT), Infinity monoblocks (450W, circa 1990s, hand built in Perth, Australia. Originally sold for Aus$18,000).

Sundries:
UpTone Regen
Blue Circle x6 Sillycone filter
Curious Cable Regen Links (x2)
DIY silver/gold ICs

Screen shot of A+ upsampling preferences.
(Limited by power of old Mac mini)


It was a thrill to get to review Burson's new Timekeeper Virtuoso. I've been a Burson fan for the past six years. I had their first pre and power amp duo from the 100 series. Their Conductor V2+ is the third DAC/pre/headphone amp I've owned.

Alex informed me that this TV had been burned in for 100 hours before being shipped for quality control. So I'd assume that would be true each and every TV. I certainly wonder if it might improve in the bass with more burn-in. It did improve over the few days I had it (as Alex suggested it would). Notes across the frequency range are rendered with military precision. Incisive violins stood up well at high volume. While as tight as the proverbial drum, I did wish for some added heft down low. This limited the visceral engagement that is so vital. It some fine finesse, but doesn't match the gravitas of the old fogeys (AKA, SAT Infinity monoblocks).

The Timekeeper Virtuoso (TV) is immaculate. Both in the aforementioned style, as well as in its presentation. It's impossibly clean. I feel like the noise floor fell to a basement I never knew existed. Details shine through with razor-sharp precision. Great for following all but unintelligible lyrics. I could imagine it being a great amp for music producers and mixers. Paraphrasing a good friend, detail in audio should not be about hearing a mouse fart in the studio. It should however, help to render more texture from every note. That would be pretty true of my experience with the TV. Save with the proviso that this texture wasn't always as rich and full as I might have liked it to be.

Referring back to its military precision, transients remind me of some high grade machine gun. (Why this pacifist resorts to military analogies is just embarrassing...) Early on, this was painful. The TV emphasised staccato, whilst the old foggy monos were all about legato. However, the sense of flow did improve over time.

Having now clocked some 100+ hours (some 200+ in total), it's now coming to life. Ella & Louis sound sumptuous swinging 'Stars Fell on Alabama'. Indeed, small group jazz and jazz vocals were generally most enjoyable. Peggy Lee's vocal whispers seduced on 'Why Don't You Do Right' (Chesky's Moments Like This). Sidestepping, Tom Waits' rusty musings and foley work was on full display on 'What's He Building In There?' I was particularly impressed with its startle factor. I think it was some kind of mechanical door that jumped out at me - making me wonder where it was coming from.

I return to my previous complaint: the bottom end is just too light. So I don't hear enough of Tom's raspy baritone. I'm greedy. I like to feel the impact of his voice in my chest. It's still Tom, don't get me wrong. He just sounds a little too clean-cut and sober for my liking.

Somewhat surprisingly, I didn't miss this lighter bass in many brighter recordings. Keith Jarrett's Koln Concert was really quite enjoyable. I always felt the bass was critical to enjoy this.
I'm very impressed by Marc Johnson's fabulous fret work on his upright bass on 'Autumn Leaves' from Patricia Barber's (Nightclub, DSD). While the bass balance may be a little lighter than I'm used to, what is there is quality. This lighter bottom end is most evident in recordings that really demand it. The fundamental bass lines that drive Massive Attack's epic 'Mezzanine' are notably lacking that visceral heartbeat. I have a few horrid room nodes below 80hZ. The Old Fogies excite them terribly. On the Timekeeper V, the nodes are pretty well behaved. While this is great on the one hand, I can't help but feel a little robbed of some bass weight.

Zinman's take on Mahler's 8th symphony (DSD) was the first recording I played on the Timekeeper V. Ambitious? Perhaps. That's how I roll. It says something about my expectations too. I hold Burson in high regard. But I was sorely deflated. I kept returning to it over time. Each time, it was a little better... From intolerable, to listenable... And now, I am really enjoying it. Finally playing it at full volume. It's not entirely resolving in the most intense cresendos, but pretty darn fine. Quieter passages are handled with great delicacy. Some of the first violin's work really stood out.

Analytics

Palpability?
Lacking that oomph in the bass detracted a little on this score.

Soundstage?
Soundstage width was fine from the get-go. However, the depth seems to have improved with time. Now, I get a much better sense of the concert hall and pit.

Boogie factor?
Check. Just listen to McBride/Brown/Clayton doing 'Taco with a Pork Chop'. I'm vegan and still gets me wiggling.

Sing-along factor?
Not so much. May well improve with more burn-in.

Noise floor?
TV has lower noise floor than the Ancient monoblocks.

Conclusion

Listening to Burson's TV, I was reminded of a tight fitting tuxedo. It looks mighty sharp with it's black and white contrast. With improved posture, you are more alert. You are as sharp as you look. Whilst the old monoblocks feel like slipping back into an old velvet suit. It may well be a little crumpled, shabby and faded, but it's oh-so comfy.

That analogy was written before the TV had really hit its straps. So it feels overblown now. Be patient. You will be rewarded. By the end of the night, the suit had more style and flair. And so much more relaxed. No fear of wedgies now.

What I imagine most of us look for is an experience. One that pins us to the seat. Demands attention. And won't let us walk away without a fight.

I had a few of those experiences with the Timekeeper. Not as many as I would have liked, but they made my time memorable.
 
Aug 1, 2016 at 2:48 PM Post #419 of 1,276
Aug 1, 2016 at 8:43 PM Post #420 of 1,276
Fantastic review Peter! Nicely written.

I kind of wish I had an Air right now. I'm flying to Europe for eight months. I don't have any portable gear, so thinking I'll take the CV2+ and Mac mini on the plane as carry on. Bit crazy, I know.. but think it will work.
 

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