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I prefer the ESW10 to ESW11 in every single way and have since sold my ESW11 as ESW10 occupies all my time.
The most striking difference is the ESW11 is boomy and slightly dark sounding while the ESW10 has a much tighter bass, a more balanced amount of bass and a more refined sound. I am speaking in relative terms between these two headphones so if you have heard either headphone you can infer the sound of the other.
I prefer the ESW10 to ESW11 in every single way and have since sold my ESW11 as ESW10 occupies all my time.
The most striking difference is the ESW11 is boomy and slightly dark sounding while the ESW10 has a much tighter bass, a more balanced amount of bass and a more refined sound. I am speaking in relative terms between these two headphones so if you have heard either headphone you can infer the sound of the other.
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As I've mentioned before, I consider the ES10 a headphone version of the CK10 but with a harder hitting mid bass.
It's my favourite.
It's my favourite.
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once again please refresh me on the ES10 (with lambskin pads) compared to the ATH-ESW11.
Thanks in advance.
once again please refresh me on the ES10 (with lambskin pads) compared to the ATH-ESW11.
Thanks in advance.
I tried the ATH-ESW11 today with AK120, RWAK-100, MS-AK100, DX100, Hifiman 901 and the Fostex hp_p1.
I took some notes which i may write up later, regardless to say the ATH-ESW11 performed well with
the different units.
Changes in the signature sound of the ATH-ESW11 was subtle across the different sources and not significant.
Wrote it up already:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/630288/the-new-iriver-ak100-a-high-end-dap/5205#post_9470946
I will continue with my ATH-ESW9 vs ATH-ESW11 comparison tomorrow.
*Also there was a pair of used ATH-ES10 that I was tempted to buy and fit with the ESW9 earpads and compare (ES10 with ESW9-pads) vs ATH-ESW11. But decided against it as even If I liked the ES10 more or If it was the same for a cheaper price I couldnt wear those shiny cups
.
*Plus I could only get the leather ESW9 pads, cant seem to locate genuine ESW11 replacement pads which would be a better fit.
*Also I am looking for a frequency response graph for the ATH-ESW11.
I would like to compare it with the ESW9, ES10 and ESW10jpn graphs I already have.
I took some notes which i may write up later, regardless to say the ATH-ESW11 performed well with
the different units.
Changes in the signature sound of the ATH-ESW11 was subtle across the different sources and not significant.
Wrote it up already:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/630288/the-new-iriver-ak100-a-high-end-dap/5205#post_9470946
I will continue with my ATH-ESW9 vs ATH-ESW11 comparison tomorrow.
*Also there was a pair of used ATH-ES10 that I was tempted to buy and fit with the ESW9 earpads and compare (ES10 with ESW9-pads) vs ATH-ESW11. But decided against it as even If I liked the ES10 more or If it was the same for a cheaper price I couldnt wear those shiny cups
.*Plus I could only get the leather ESW9 pads, cant seem to locate genuine ESW11 replacement pads which would be a better fit.
*Also I am looking for a frequency response graph for the ATH-ESW11.
I would like to compare it with the ESW9, ES10 and ESW10jpn graphs I already have.
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Any ATH-ESW10jpn vs ATH-ESW9 comparisons you can share?
I am curious as the driver size is similar:
ESW9 - drivers 42mm,
Frequency response [font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']5～35,000Hz[/font]
ESW10jpn - drivers 40mm
Frequency Response: 5-53,000 Hz
Seeing as I am at it
![size]](http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies/L3000.gif[size=13px][/size])
lets add:
ESW11 - drivers 53mm, [font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']5～42,000Hz[/font]
[font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']ES10 - drivers 53mm, [/font][font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']5～40,000Hz[/font]
[font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']*Specs from Audio Technica website.[/font]
[font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']* The frequency response seems a big plus for the ESW10jpn.[/font]
Any ATH-ESW10jpn vs ATH-ESW9 comparisons you can share?
I am curious as the driver size is similar:
ESW9 - drivers 42mm,
Frequency response [font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']5～35,000Hz[/font]
ESW10jpn - drivers 40mm
Frequency Response: 5-53,000 Hz
Seeing as I am at it
ESW11 - drivers 53mm, [font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']5～42,000Hz[/font]
[font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']ES10 - drivers 53mm, [/font][font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']5～40,000Hz[/font]
[font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']*Specs from Audio Technica website.[/font]
[font= 'Hiragino Kaku Gothic Pro']* The frequency response seems a big plus for the ESW10jpn.[/font]
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I found these, but I am not sure, if this is really genuine.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-Audio-Technica-HP-ESW11-Replacement-Ear-Pads-for-ATH-ESW11LTD-Pair-/140965798942?pt=US_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item20d237641e
*Also there was a pair of used ATH-ES10 that I was tempted to buy and fit with the ESW9 earpads and compare (ES10 with ESW9-pads) vs ATH-ESW11. But decided against it as even If I liked the ES10 more or If it was the same for a cheaper price I couldnt wear those shiny cups
*Plus I could only get the leather ESW9 pads, cant seem to locate genuine ESW11 replacement pads which would be a better fit.
I found these, but I am not sure, if this is really genuine.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-Audio-Technica-HP-ESW11-Replacement-Ear-Pads-for-ATH-ESW11LTD-Pair-/140965798942?pt=US_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item20d237641e
Thanks for searching some possibly pads for me - Gratitude.
I figure If I cant find them at e-earphone I am not gonna risk it
.......Anyways, even If the ATH-ESW11 and ES10 with leather pads sound about the same, I cant picture myself walking about like a bling bling Tokyo bladerunner cyborg with the ATH-ES10
![size]](http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies/k701smile.gif[size=13px][/size])
I figure If I cant find them at e-earphone I am not gonna risk it
.......Anyways, even If the ATH-ESW11 and ES10 with leather pads sound about the same, I cant picture myself walking about like a bling bling Tokyo bladerunner cyborg with the ATH-ES10
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Hey, hey, I was running around for about at least one year with that titanium bling bling swag. Those ugly skullcandy had nothing on me
Thanks for searching some possibly pads for me - Gratitude.
I figure If I cant find them at e-earphone I am not gonna risk it
.......Anyways, even If the ATH-ESW11 and ES10 with leather pads sound about the same, I cant picture myself walking about like a bling bling Tokyo bladerunner cyborg with the ATH-ES10
Hey, hey, I was running around for about at least one year with that titanium bling bling swag. Those ugly skullcandy had nothing on me
Initial listening between ATH-ESW11 and ATH-ESW9.
I prefer short bullet point note taking as I listen.
Hopefully this of use or interest to some of you
Tomorrow I have some spare time and will do some more indepth listening.
ATH-ESW11 vs ATH-ESW9.
Fostex hp_p1 – Gain 1, filter 2 (Unless otherwise noted).
Massive Attack –Teardrop.
ESW11 – More bass, bigger soundstage.
ESW9 - `Quieter`, non-fatiguing.
Current 93 – All the pretty horses.
ESW11 – Needed more volume, more full sound.
ESW9 – More `flat`.
(Gain2, filter 2)
ESW11 – Not brighter but more space, bit imbalance at low volume on Fostex.
ESW9 – Detail, mids, syrupy.
Lana Del Ray – Born to die.
ESW11 – Flat, deeper bass, bit of murk.
ESW9 – Nice bass, subtle, flat sound, more highs.
Norah Jones – Come away with me.
ESW11 – Nice, beautiful, non-fatiguing, vocals too forward.
ESW9 – Missing some fullness.
Mazzy Star - Fade into you.
ESW11 – More mids, lush, fuller.
ESW9 – Flat, *Neutral, a bit lifeless.
Jeff Buckley – Hallelujah.
ESW11 – Good sound, nice vocals, nice highs, more detail.
ESW9 - `Neutral`, lacks emotion.
The Cardigans – Erase and rewind.
ESW11 – Good quick response, nice deep bass, syrupy and crisp vocals, toe tapping.
ESW9 – Flat bass, recessed, clear vocals.
DJ Champion – No heaven.
ESW11 – Toe/head tapping, bit of `murk`.
ESW9 - `Flat` again, not as wide soundstage.
Rammstein – Du Hast.
ESW11 – Punchy, less volume needed for punch.
ESW9 - `Recessed`, less deep punchy bass, needs more volume for punch.
The Chemical Brothers – Asleep from the day.
ESW11 – Lush vocals, Clear vocals, crisp, bass gives fullness.
ESW9 – Clear, flat, missing bass.
Radiohead – Bulletproof.
ESW11 – Bit bloated bass at high volume, full sound.
ESW9 – Clear, clean, `flat`,
David Bowie – Ziggy Stardust.
ESW11 – Artificial.
ESW9 – Accurate.
The Verve – Sonnet.
ESW11 – Nice, lush, accurate, flat.
ESW9 – Laidback, flat.
Peter, Bjorn and John – Young folks.
ESW11 – Harsh treble, fast.
ESW9 – Bit harsh treble, overpowering!, fast response.
Gnarls Barkley – Crazy.
ESW11 – Deep bass, full.
ESW9 – Flat, clear.
(Gain1, Filter 1)
ESW11 – Bass, clearer, more highs.
ESW9 – More flat, more detail, highs, less bass, more fatiguing.
Chemical Brothers – Track?
Wife testing said she preferred the ESW11. Why? Dunno J
Pixies – Bossonova.
ESW11 – More soundstage, good.
ESW9 – Good.
Credence Clearwater revival – Fortunate son.
ESW11 – More mids, bass, stronger, more power.
ESW9 – Clear.
Foo Fighters – Band on the run.
ESW11 – Full, bass.
ESW9 – Lighter, mids.
Moby – Why does my heart feel so bad?
ESW11 – Full bass, lighter.
ESW9 – Flat, less clear.
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds – push the sky away.
ESw11 – Flat, full, warmer.
ESW9 – Flat, clear, crisp.
Dead Can Dance – The snake and the moon.
ESW11 – Clean, musical.
ESW9 –Clean, clear, minimal bass.
David Bowie – The stars come out tonight.
ESW11 – Good, clear, beats, more engaging.
ESW9 – Lighter, more highs, transparent, less in your face.
Radiohead – Street spirit.
ESW11 – Warm, full.
ESW9 – Lighter, airy.
Joy Division – Atmosphere.
ESW11 – Bit darker, less space.
ESw9 – Nice accurate.
The Pixies – This monkeys gone to heaven.
ESW11 – Better sound, more mids.
ESW9 – Clean, flat.
I prefer short bullet point note taking as I listen.
Hopefully this of use or interest to some of you
Tomorrow I have some spare time and will do some more indepth listening.
ATH-ESW11 vs ATH-ESW9.
Fostex hp_p1 – Gain 1, filter 2 (Unless otherwise noted).
Massive Attack –Teardrop.
ESW11 – More bass, bigger soundstage.
ESW9 - `Quieter`, non-fatiguing.
Current 93 – All the pretty horses.
ESW11 – Needed more volume, more full sound.
ESW9 – More `flat`.
(Gain2, filter 2)
ESW11 – Not brighter but more space, bit imbalance at low volume on Fostex.
ESW9 – Detail, mids, syrupy.
Lana Del Ray – Born to die.
ESW11 – Flat, deeper bass, bit of murk.
ESW9 – Nice bass, subtle, flat sound, more highs.
Norah Jones – Come away with me.
ESW11 – Nice, beautiful, non-fatiguing, vocals too forward.
ESW9 – Missing some fullness.
Mazzy Star - Fade into you.
ESW11 – More mids, lush, fuller.
ESW9 – Flat, *Neutral, a bit lifeless.
Jeff Buckley – Hallelujah.
ESW11 – Good sound, nice vocals, nice highs, more detail.
ESW9 - `Neutral`, lacks emotion.
The Cardigans – Erase and rewind.
ESW11 – Good quick response, nice deep bass, syrupy and crisp vocals, toe tapping.
ESW9 – Flat bass, recessed, clear vocals.
DJ Champion – No heaven.
ESW11 – Toe/head tapping, bit of `murk`.
ESW9 - `Flat` again, not as wide soundstage.
Rammstein – Du Hast.
ESW11 – Punchy, less volume needed for punch.
ESW9 - `Recessed`, less deep punchy bass, needs more volume for punch.
The Chemical Brothers – Asleep from the day.
ESW11 – Lush vocals, Clear vocals, crisp, bass gives fullness.
ESW9 – Clear, flat, missing bass.
Radiohead – Bulletproof.
ESW11 – Bit bloated bass at high volume, full sound.
ESW9 – Clear, clean, `flat`,
David Bowie – Ziggy Stardust.
ESW11 – Artificial.
ESW9 – Accurate.
The Verve – Sonnet.
ESW11 – Nice, lush, accurate, flat.
ESW9 – Laidback, flat.
Peter, Bjorn and John – Young folks.
ESW11 – Harsh treble, fast.
ESW9 – Bit harsh treble, overpowering!, fast response.
Gnarls Barkley – Crazy.
ESW11 – Deep bass, full.
ESW9 – Flat, clear.
(Gain1, Filter 1)
ESW11 – Bass, clearer, more highs.
ESW9 – More flat, more detail, highs, less bass, more fatiguing.
Chemical Brothers – Track?
Wife testing said she preferred the ESW11. Why? Dunno J
Pixies – Bossonova.
ESW11 – More soundstage, good.
ESW9 – Good.
Credence Clearwater revival – Fortunate son.
ESW11 – More mids, bass, stronger, more power.
ESW9 – Clear.
Foo Fighters – Band on the run.
ESW11 – Full, bass.
ESW9 – Lighter, mids.
Moby – Why does my heart feel so bad?
ESW11 – Full bass, lighter.
ESW9 – Flat, less clear.
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds – push the sky away.
ESw11 – Flat, full, warmer.
ESW9 – Flat, clear, crisp.
Dead Can Dance – The snake and the moon.
ESW11 – Clean, musical.
ESW9 –Clean, clear, minimal bass.
David Bowie – The stars come out tonight.
ESW11 – Good, clear, beats, more engaging.
ESW9 – Lighter, more highs, transparent, less in your face.
Radiohead – Street spirit.
ESW11 – Warm, full.
ESW9 – Lighter, airy.
Joy Division – Atmosphere.
ESW11 – Bit darker, less space.
ESw9 – Nice accurate.
The Pixies – This monkeys gone to heaven.
ESW11 – Better sound, more mids.
ESW9 – Clean, flat.
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Seeing people's feedback about ESW11 has convinced me more that I should pass on it as I have the ESW9 which I like a lot. I wonder though if it's still possible to get an ESW10jpn somewhere as I am very intrigued with its sound signature more.
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gaffer tape.
Thanks for searching some possibly pads for me - Gratitude.
I figure If I cant find them at e-earphone I am not gonna risk it
.......Anyways, even If the ATH-ESW11 and ES10 with leather pads sound about the same, I cant picture myself walking about like a bling bling Tokyo bladerunner cyborg with the ATH-ES10
gaffer tape.
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Got both coming in from Japan so I hope they match up well. I always wanted to try the ESW10 but could never get my hands on one. I had an ESW9 and found it fatiguing, so I sold it off rather quickly. If the ESW10 sounds like the CK10, that's great but if the ESW11 sounds like the FX700 that's great for me as well as I like that kind of coloration. Those are the two IEMs I held onto anyways so I guess they're my favorites. I swore off supra-aural headphones but then I saw these and got one of the last pairs off Price Japan, right after they dropped the price ~$50 so I think I did okay.
Got both coming in from Japan so I hope they match up well. I always wanted to try the ESW10 but could never get my hands on one. I had an ESW9 and found it fatiguing, so I sold it off rather quickly. If the ESW10 sounds like the CK10, that's great but if the ESW11 sounds like the FX700 that's great for me as well as I like that kind of coloration. Those are the two IEMs I held onto anyways so I guess they're my favorites. I swore off supra-aural headphones but then I saw these and got one of the last pairs off Price Japan, right after they dropped the price ~$50 so I think I did okay.
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