[Chopin75]

Anyone using the Hydra Z? For whatever reasons the Hydra Z is not compatible with the old Master 7 over HDMI I2S. A few users tried and no luck.

I think the current generation of DDCs are way past their peak. The new Xmos U216 has more memory and faster plus learn from the current generation designs and improve on lowering jitter and better performance.

Also when I read carefully teh Hydrra z can only do native DSD128 then it upsamples on the fly to 1024 so maybe of interest to some. I am primarily interested in its clock, as I want to have 3 DDC clocked together to do Multi-channel with 3 DACs one day. Though I do need at least DSD 256 naive playback.

 

[Whitigir]

My PC has no problem doing dsd1024, the problem is that I need something on the receiving end like xmos 216

 

[Chopin75]

People also stop making music servers with I2S output. Most use USB and not even having AES/SPDIF.

 

[Whitigir]

People also stop making music servers with I2S output. Most use USB and not even having AES/SPDIF.

That is because manufacturers are pushing USB too hard, but don’t you see ? Multibit DAC communicate by I2S. Therefore, Direct I2S is the best, sadly the only one now is Pinkfaun, and you need a PC but it also sticks at 32/ 192Khz max

 

[Chopin75]

Has anyone noticed that some or many of the recordings made in the 1990s to early 2000s were simply amazing? I have been listening to some CDs of that period and they sound simply amazing with R2R7 via my CD transport! Granted, the CD transport is the Sony esoteric SA-60 ($4500 back > 10 yrs ago), and I use AES instead. But the liquid smooth, almost vinyl like analogue, deep natural atmospheric sound stage at times makes me wonder that had I know CDs to sound that amazing I may never have gone to digital Hi-Res downloads or continue to collect more vinyl. But apart also fact that CDs back then were produced properly, instead of burned-in nowadays, there got to be some other explanations.

One possibility is perhaps R2R or at least multibit A to D recorders were used before invention of signa delta 1 bit tech which destroyed PCM recordings? All recordings are now using SD chips.

Then there is this:
https://www.cnet.com/news/compression-is-killing-your-music/#


Thirdly, recordings may do lots of digital editing instead of balancing them right in the first place. So they do crappy job wit miking etc... this is really obvious with orchestral recordings, and it is too costly to employ the entire orchestra to spend too much time miking and balancing on the spot, or do retakes etc. just do editing later on..

Perhaps the main reason why DSD recordings are so good is because they cannot edit (needs to convert to PCM to do any editing) so they need to balance everything right on the spot and reduce the need to edit later on. (Also musicians need to be Damn good, with flawless playing).


So currently my CD got still beats downloads ! The R2R7 has brought the CD sound to unprecedented level.
Also the R2R7’s dynamics is simply amazing ! I had to lower the volume few times as the forte in certain passages has become ffff instead of ff. One of my dying speakers is clipping like crazy (some damaged driver(s). Wow... for downloads still somewhat fuzzy with complex texture (or [blame the recording ?) which may mean the F-1 still needs more burning in as well (I read it also needs 500 hrs!).

R2R7 is at NOS3 mode

CD player —> BNC—->RDL transformer/reclocker to——>AES ————> R2R7


MacBook Air on battery —-> idefender + ipower ——-> igalvanic ——> isilencer ——-> F1 internal board —> R2R7

 

[Whitigir]

Very nice, $4,500 back in those day would be somewhere $7,500 now...or the price of DMP-Z1

 

[FredA]

Has anyone noticed that some or many of the recordings made in the 1990s to early 2000s were simply amazing? I have been listening to some CDs of that period and they sound simply amazing with R2R7 via my CD transport! Granted, the CD transport is the Sony esoteric SA-60 ($4500 back > 10 yrs ago), and I use AES instead. But the liquid smooth, almost vinyl like analogue, deep natural atmospheric sound stage at times makes me wonder that had I know CDs to sound that amazing I may never have gone to digital Hi-Res downloads or continue to collect more vinyl. But apart also fact that CDs back then were produced properly, instead of burned-in nowadays, there got to be some other explanations.

One possibility is perhaps R2R or at least multibit A to D recorders were used before invention of signa delta 1 bit tech which destroyed PCM recordings? All recordings are now using SD chips.

Then there is this:
https://www.cnet.com/news/compression-is-killing-your-music/#


Thirdly, recordings may do lots of digital editing instead of balancing them right in the first place. So they do crappy job wit miking etc... this is really obvious with orchestral recordings, and it is too costly to employ the entire orchestra to spend too much time miking and balancing on the spot, or do retakes etc. just do editing later on..

Perhaps the main reason why DSD recordings are so good is because they cannot edit (needs to convert to PCM to do any editing) so they need to balance everything right on the spot and reduce the need to edit later on. (Also musicians need to be Damn good, with flawless playing).


So currently my CD got still beats downloads ! The R2R7 has brought the CD sound to unprecedented level.
Also the R2R7’s dynamics is simply amazing ! I had to lower the volume few times as the forte in certain passages has become ffff instead of ff. One of my dying speakers is clipping like crazy (some damaged driver(s). Wow... for downloads still somewhat fuzzy with complex texture (or [blame the recording ?) which may mean the F-1 still needs more burning in as well (I read it also needs 500 hrs!).

CD player —> BNC—->RDL transformer/reclocker to——>AES ————> R2R7


MacBook Air on battery —-> idefender + ipower ——-> igalvanic ——> isilencer ——-> F1 internal board —> R2R7

It's very hard to bring a computer to the same level as an exellent cd transport. Took me 7-8 years. Now i prefer the sound from the computer. But it had to be isolated in a thorough manner.

 

[Whitigir]

It's very hard to bring a computer to the same level as an exellent cd transport. Took me 7-8 years. Now i prefer the sound from the computer. But it had to be isolated in a thorough manner.

Computer can do wonderful, but is not easy to do so. About transport, I think Aune S5 can do i2s out at dsd1024 ?

 

[Chopin75]

It's very hard to bring a computer to the same level as an exellent cd transport. Took me 7-8 years. Now i prefer the sound from the computer. But it had to be isolated in a thorough manner.

Good lord! I will need to upgrade my computer soon that has more RAm than 4 GB and more power. Likely A Macbook pro with latest chip, and I need a new Laptop anyway, not just for music. Or maybe eventually a true dedicated computer for audio with I2S output which plays DSD 256 which does not even exist now.

 

[FredA]

The Magna Mano can do hdmi i2s and uses crystek clocks. Not the ocxo Whitigir uses but, the same as in the f-1. They have an ultra version with upgraded psu.

 

[Whitigir]

The Magna Mano can do hdmi i2s and uses crystek clocks. Not the ocxo Whitigir uses but, the same as in the f-1. They have an ultra version with upgraded psu.

Only dsd256x though

 

[Chopin75]

https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/netw...-i2s-dsd1024-pcm768khz32bit-dlna-p-12861.html

Computer can do wonderful, but is not easy to do so. About transport, I think Aune S5 can do i2s out at dsd1024 ?

U mean this one:

https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/netw...-i2s-dsd1024-pcm768khz32bit-dlna-p-12861.html

Looks like exactly one I need ! Many thanks! Looks like from France? Good pricing. Also does DSD at 1024 with I2S!

 

[Chopin75]

Only dsd256x though

Only DoP 64 with I2S

 

[DACLadder]

The AUNE S5 is a nice package. But HDMI I2S is wired wrong for AGD products. It will work PCM however but L-R channels are swapped and absolute audio phase is 180 deg out. Same deal as the Gustard U12 connected to a R7.

DNLAs are attractive. But has to sound good and have a slick control interface. The AUNE S5 has a lot of features I like though.

 

[Chopin75]

The AUNE S5 is a nice package. But HDMI I2S is wired wrong for AGD products. It will work PCM however but L-R channels are swapped and absolute audio phase is 180 deg out. Same deal as the Gustard U12 connected to a R7.

DNLAs are attractive. But has to sound good and have a slick control interface. The AUNE S5 has a lot of features I like though.

Do you think this can be fixed easily? Just changing the HDM! I2S setting to match AGD products?