New Audio-gd R-7, R-7HE R-8, R-27, R-27HE, R-28 Flagship Resistor Ladder DACs and DAC/amps

Apr 21, 2025 at 8:32 AM Post #12,001 of 12,019
Anyone tried Meze Liric 2 with R27RE? Would love to hear impressions as I am about to pull the trigger on one but have been told it is picky with amps
The Liric 2 isn't picky at all. It's very easy to power and will run out of portable gear. Similarly, the big Audio-gd amps are pretty great with everything.
 
Apr 23, 2025 at 9:31 PM Post #12,003 of 12,019
I know that ACSS interconnects between audio-gd components has been touted as being better than XLR in the past.

Is this still true with the newest equipment- for example- a R-7HE MK3 connected to a HE-1 MK3? I thought kingwa may have told me once that the gap on using XLR IC's has pretty much closed and is as good as ACSS IC's---- but I may have misunderstood him.
 
Apr 26, 2025 at 3:25 PM Post #12,004 of 12,019
There's not a valid reason to choose a DI-20/25 output besides hdmi for the original tight I2S, unless you let your serial data line get a taste of the true phat that could exist after all notes sound, at the expense of using a ruined for 4x lines, thick coax cable. Please don't simply settle with an hdmi connection for original I2S output. We need 1 big coax for SD line, and a still also better XLR connection for the other 3 lines to use exclusively, and therefore be the better I2S connection option. My isolated SD hdmi line is so originally controlled and powerful, yet only meatless skeletons play, proven by coax, except during SP/DIF simplicity messing it up for everyone's lines.
 
Apr 27, 2025 at 12:06 AM Post #12,005 of 12,019
There's not a valid reason to choose a DI-20/25 output besides hdmi for the original tight I2S, unless you let your serial data line get a taste of the true phat that could exist after all notes sound, at the expense of using a ruined for 4x lines, thick coax cable. Please don't simply settle with an hdmi connection for original I2S output. We need 1 big coax for SD line, and a still also better XLR connection for the other 3 lines to use exclusively, and therefore be the better I2S connection option. My isolated SD hdmi line is so originally controlled and powerful, yet only meatless skeletons play, proven by coax, except during SP/DIF simplicity messing it up for everyone's lines.
If any of that isn't impedance-matched, you'll get signal reflections along the line, and that'll be self-defeating.
 
Apr 27, 2025 at 3:55 AM Post #12,006 of 12,019
If any of that isn't impedance-matched, you'll get signal reflections along the line, and that'll be self-defeating.
Why would designers stop caring about impedance matching? They can already send us around at either 75 or 110, and whatever else they think you could try.
Good that you perked up, master Currawong. If you've chosen the I2S protocol, like I have for it's in the first place correctness, think of the most heavy metal track you like, and play it with a big phat serial data stream through a SP/DIF shared-coax, and especially listen for the existence of weight after all, thanks to it.
Back on hdmi I2S, the engineer who can put a coax + XLR sized I2S connector on my DAC and my DI-20xx instead of the easier hdmi... No way could I get a thicker than hdmi line for this serial data. It already sounds so tight and controlled for just a skinny little feather line, that would just make our systems beat our old cd players way too easily.
But we are being the audiophiles, so it's our watch to be representing the opposite of doing that thing that keeps us from wanting it to sound like our favorites are actually here with us anymore, heheh. So, everyone listening on hdmi; what if that SD line were a full-sized simple coax isolated one?
Kingwa won I2S for us, but it was already an easy win using the hdmi connection only, just to get us the initial I2S connection victory. Lots of people are hearing I2S VS AES, but choosing SP/DIF 3rdly in video shootouts keeps making people think again about plain old ruined-all-4x signals SP/DIF, due to it's ability to convey weight, which hdmi never reaches.
 
May 3, 2025 at 10:51 AM Post #12,007 of 12,019
I’m finding myself wishing for a more seamless way of switching XLR cables when I want to listen to different HP on R27RE. Anyone have experience with Hart modular cables?
 
May 3, 2025 at 11:41 AM Post #12,008 of 12,019
I’m finding myself wishing for a more seamless way of switching XLR cables when I want to listen to different HP on R27RE. Anyone have experience with Hart modular cables?

Me. I love them. Super good company/. What I also ended up doing is getting a high end converter for 4.4 —> XLR from pine tree audio.

The one thing about heart is you need a I have a designated place where all the parts of the modular cables live at all times or you’re going to lose the smaller parts which connect the headphones cables to the amps.
 
May 3, 2025 at 12:09 PM Post #12,009 of 12,019
Me. I love them. Super good company/. What I also ended up doing is getting a high end converter for 4.4 —> XLR from pine tree audio.

The one thing about heart is you need a I have a designated place where all the parts of the modular cables live at all times or you’re going to lose the smaller parts which connect the headphones cables to the amps.
@Patswalker ! It’s been awhile- nice to be back in touch. As always thanks for the feedback. This is great advice.

Can you say more about “high end converter for 4.4 —> XLR from pine tree audio”?
 
May 3, 2025 at 12:50 PM Post #12,010 of 12,019
@Patswalker ! It’s been awhile- nice to be back in touch. As always thanks for the feedback. This is great advice.

Can you say more about “high end converter for 4.4 —> XLR from pine tree audio”?

It’s an adapter that converts 4.4mm to XLR. Higher end silver/copper cabling than what Heart offers. I’m not going to open up a Pandora’s box here discussing if it sounds better. I stopped using Hart because I kept losing the amp connectors when I needed them so I went back to switching out headphone cables each time I wanted to use a different headphone.
 
May 3, 2025 at 3:20 PM Post #12,011 of 12,019
It’s an adapter that converts 4.4mm to XLR. Higher end silver/copper cabling than what Heart offers. I’m not going to open up a Pandora’s box here discussing if it sounds better. I stopped using Hart because I kept losing the amp connectors when I needed them so I went back to switching out headphone cables each time I wanted to use a different headphone.
Gotcha. So You permanently keep that adapter plugged into XLR output of amp and swap 4.4mm terminated HP cables that stay plugged into cans?
 
May 3, 2025 at 3:27 PM Post #12,012 of 12,019
Hello, everyone,

sorry if this is a silly question for many of you.
I have the AGD system in my signature and an AGD DI-25 (not HE) on the way from MagnaHIFI.

I'd like to replace my R2R-1 DAC (bought many years ago) with a R8HE Mk3, because I'd like to have a high end DAC without splurging on a R9HE Mk3.
At the moment I would keep the AGD NFB1-Amp as driver (which I really like for its transparency, with uncomplicated headphones as my ZMF Eikon are).
Later on we'll see if a Master-9 will fit in my house.

I have searched this thread (not extensively, apologies for that) for opinions on my wish DAC, but have either found none or missed them.
Can any of you top AGD DAC experts tell me if the choice I am about to make makes sense?
I imagine the step up from the AGD R2R-1 is stellar.
Any comments, if any, will be appreciated.

Give thanks.

Lu
 
May 4, 2025 at 1:04 AM Post #12,013 of 12,019
Hello, everyone,

sorry if this is a silly question for many of you.
I have the AGD system in my signature and an AGD DI-25 (not HE) on the way from MagnaHIFI.

I'd like to replace my R2R-1 DAC (bought many years ago) with a R8HE Mk3, because I'd like to have a high end DAC without splurging on a R9HE Mk3.
At the moment I would keep the AGD NFB1-Amp as driver (which I really like for its transparency, with uncomplicated headphones as my ZMF Eikon are).
Later on we'll see if a Master-9 will fit in my house.

I have searched this thread (not extensively, apologies for that) for opinions on my wish DAC, but have either found none or missed them.
Can any of you top AGD DAC experts tell me if the choice I am about to make makes sense?
I imagine the step up from the AGD R2R-1 is stellar.
Any comments, if any, will be appreciated.

Give thanks.

Lu

Hey, so I have owned the R27HE for about 6 months now, which is somewhere between the R8HE and R7HE in terms of performance. I cannot comment on the differences between it and the R2R-1, or R1-based models as I haven't heard them. @OCC7N (if he's still active) would be the one with the most insight as he's had both afaik.

You can check a few months back in this thread to when someone else was asking about the R8HE as well. But, to post something I've said before, depending on what genres you listen to and how you prefer to listen, it's an easy recommendation from me. If you want something a little more warm and inviting, not quite as detailed/incisive and energy-focused as the R8HE, I'd recommend the HE-8, though it comes with the downside of only having PCM playback if that matters to you.

Whatever you choose, they are all very good DACs by all accounts and I doubt you'll be disappointed. The R27HE definitely delivered what I was looking for signature-wise, at the very least.
 
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May 4, 2025 at 2:46 AM Post #12,014 of 12,019
Hey, so I have owned the R27HE for about 6 months now, which is somewhere between the R8HE and R9HE in terms of performance. I cannot comment on the differences between it and the R2R-1, or R1-based models as I haven't heard them. @OCC7N (if he's still active) would be the one with the most insight as he's had both afaik.

You can check a few months back in this thread to when someone else was asking about the R8HE as well. But, to post something I've said before, depending on what genres you listen to and how you prefer to listen, it's an easy recommendation from me. If you want something a little more warm and inviting, not quite as detailed/incisive and energy-focused as the R8HE, I'd recommend the HE-8, though it comes with the downside of only having PCM playback if that matters to you.

Whatever you choose, they are all very good DACs by all accounts and I doubt you'll be disappointed. The R27HE definitely delivered what I was looking for signature-wise, at the very least.
Hi and thank you very much for the answers.

I'll think about it on the HE8.

Give thanks.

Lu
 

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