New Audio-gd R-7, R-7HE R-8, R-27, R-27HE, R-28 Flagship Resistor Ladder DACs and DAC/amps

Sep 19, 2023 at 10:33 AM Post #10,696 of 12,020
Why ? R7HE21 (or MK2/3) have same Amanero board, same Accusilicon clocks. Please explain why using DI-20-HE is better. if it's better, it means something is missing / wrong with the R7HE21 (or Mk 2/3). I just can't understand why it would bring improvement with R7HEMk2 (or R7HE21 which has accusilicon clocks)
Less noise. Combined with a Tubulus Concentus i2s cable, the effect is significant. Less noise means less jitter.

With an inferior i2s cable, the effect is small.

One additional benefit though is the di20he will provide more latitude for tweaking the sound to your likings.
 
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Sep 19, 2023 at 10:56 AM Post #10,697 of 12,020
Hello.

Does a DI-20-HE improves the sound quality of a R7HE21 ? Both have accusillicon clocks, seems the DI-20-HE is already built-in within R7HE.
I'm wondering if the DI-20-HE is a worthwhile addition for my current R7HE21. Any feedback welcome, thanks.

USB is just not that good in some cases, even though it has a lot of bandwidth. It carries power, therefore it's a good place for electrical noise and ground loops to happen.

If you have a quiet USB source you don't need a DDC. But, sometimes you don't know how noisy it is until you put a good DDC between your USB source and downstream gear.

But it's not only about reducing noise but also connectivity. You can use the DI-20/HE to drive multiple devices since all outputs are active. It lets you run a USB device and a coaxial S/PDIF device in, and AES/EBU, IIS, coaxial S/PDIF and ACSS out. It can help connect many devices and simplify your setup.

In my case even with quiet USB and no evidence of noise, the quality of the system improves with the DI-20HE and my R8 MK2.
 
Sep 19, 2023 at 2:02 PM Post #10,698 of 12,020
First, a big thank you to the group on this thread. Very informative. I am coming from the Gustard R26 (see setup in my signature) and recently ordered the R-7HE MK3, thanks to this group. A bit of a risk for me to say the least but this thread convinced me I was headed in the right direction. On my list of contenders was the Holo May KTE, Denafrips Terminator 2+, DCS Luna (preowned) and the newly released Audio_GD R-7HE MK3. This group put me over the top for the Audio_GD, thank you. I look forward to participating in this group as actively as I did with the Gustard R26.
What kind of music/qualities in music are most important to you? Made you consider these DACs?

I'm kind of considering the same, coming from X26pro (Hypsos&Oor) and I'll either go forAGD DAC as well vs WANDLA or T+A DAC 200.

Looking forward to your impressions.
 
Sep 19, 2023 at 6:52 PM Post #10,700 of 12,020
What kind of music/qualities in music are most important to you? Made you consider these DACs?

I'm kind of considering the same, coming from X26pro (Hypsos&Oor) and I'll either go forAGD DAC as well vs WANDLA or T+A DAC 200.

Looking forward to your impressions.
Take what I am about to share with a grain of salt as I am only one person but happy to share my perspective.

What kind of music/qualities in music are most important to you?
I like a wider soundstage with detail. For example I could hear the breath between notes on Amy Winehouse's "Back to Black," and it sent chills up my spine. Very realistic. In the same vein I felt like she and the band were all around me vs right in front of me. Very 3d. I also like a bit of warmth which I got from the R26 as well as my Active Tube Stage preamp. I also appreciate a DAC that can render all types of music like a champ and the R26 did that for me for sure. In brief, wide soundstage with detail and a bit of warmth.

Made you consider these DACs?
To be honest there was zero concern with the R26 it is a great DAC for the price. Lots of value. The "upgrade itch," got a hold of me. I recently purchased the Hifi Rose RS 130 (streamer only). The goal of the RS130 is to 100% eliminate any outside "noise," by using top tier fiber optic inputs / outputs. There is also an isolated i2s port on the 130 which is a unique feature but is incompatible with the R26 so I would be required to use a DDC which was not what I wanted to do. Lastly I was seeking a bit "more," from my DAC. More what I have no idea but more. LOL, truth time here, don't judge.

So the DAC's I were considering were the: ((i2s compatibility with Hifi Rose RS130 was my only standing requirement))
DenaFrips: Terminator (passed due to cost and I feel that the experience would be similar to that of the R26 at 4 times the cost).
Holo May KTE: I auditioned it and to my shock I did not like it, it sounded too sterile to me, now for the Holo fans I know this is a great DAC but it was not for me.
Ferrum Wandla I have the Oor / Hypsos and love their products) but it is a D/ S and after using a R2R DAC for almost a year I can't go back to D/S
Chord TT2: great dac and with the recent price drop very appealing but no i2s and not fully balanced so I passed based on specs
T+A DAC 200: Simple, I did not like it. Again can't explain why but I really didn't.
DCS Bartok 2.0 (used): Once again I did not like it and I know this is the holy grail of DAC but it was not for me.
Audio-GD: I love that the emphasis is on quality components that focus on power aka noise, audio input / output and a company founded by a engineer who still likes what they do and wants to support the customer base beyond the 1st sale. This brand was unknown to me until a few months ago when I started doing my research. I read this entire thread which was a long journey and so worth it for my education and was the push I needed to commit. The consensus on the sound varies but overall aligns with my taste and the quality you get in the component itself is a real treat. I will let you know my listening impressions once the device arrives and burn it hits at least 500 hours. (short story long, sorry)

So there is my journey. I have had such good luck with boutique brands. For example Khozmo Acoustics and Hattor Audio from Poland. Arek is the owner of both brands and has made a few things for me that should cost 3x what I paid but he keeps prices reasonable because he can. I feel that the same maybe true with Audio-GD, we will see.



Hope this helps,
Richard
 
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Sep 19, 2023 at 7:07 PM Post #10,701 of 12,020
I have attached pic of my setup just for fun. The Audio-GD R7HEMK3 will be here sooner vs later.


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Sep 19, 2023 at 7:39 PM Post #10,702 of 12,020
I have attached pic of my setup just for fun. The Audio-GD R7HEMK3 will be here sooner vs later.


Make more space :sweat_smile:

EDIT: I meant if the R7HEMK2 is as big as my HE9LE. Thats a big commitment.🤣👍

And if you decide to get Susvara on a new next level ACSS + HE9MK2/3 will take up some more room😊👍

The magic part about audio-gd hardware: It dissapears when listening to music…
 
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Sep 20, 2023 at 7:08 AM Post #10,703 of 12,020
Make more space :sweat_smile:

EDIT: I meant if the R7HEMK2 is as big as my HE9LE. Thats a big commitment.🤣👍

And if you decide to get Susvara on a new next level ACSS + HE9MK2/3 will take up some more room😊👍

The magic part about audio-gd hardware: It dissapears when listening to music…
Thanks. And yes. I love my Susvara’s. I appreciate the insight. As far as making room, no doubt. I am going to need to reconfigure my entire system. I will post an after pic once installed.
 
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Sep 20, 2023 at 1:04 PM Post #10,704 of 12,020
On Magna's site it states the size of the R7HE mk3 as follows:
430x530x125
In the 3 y old video of HB he shows (see pic)

has the depht of the chassis gotten even deeper?
thanks
 

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Sep 20, 2023 at 1:37 PM Post #10,705 of 12,020
On Magna's site it states the size of the R7HE mk3 as follows:
430x530x125
In the 3 y old video of HB he shows (see pic)

has the depht of the chassis gotten even deeper?
thanks
Below is the measurement for the R7HEMk3 via the magna site. The depth is 485mm not 530mm/. The case is the same size from the Mk2 to Mk3 as far as I know but the current Mk3 dimensions are listed correctly on the Magna site.
 

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Sep 20, 2023 at 2:08 PM Post #10,706 of 12,020
Below is the measurement for the R7HEMk3 via the magna site. The depth is 430mm not 530mm/. The case is the same size from the Mk2 to Mk3 as far as I know but the current Mk3 dimensions are listed correctly on the Magna site.
couldn't get the title in the screenshot but for €4.099.- there is only one piece!
(HB stated 17kg and on Magna it's 22kg, so another discrepancy but his video is 3y old...)

430x530x125 and isn't it deeper then wider in reality?

How deep does it actually measure?
thanks
 

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Sep 20, 2023 at 2:29 PM Post #10,707 of 12,020
Thanks. And yes. I love my Susvara’s. I appreciate the insight. As far as making room, no doubt. I am going to need to reconfigure my entire system. I will post an after pic once installed.
I assume the DI20HE will come in the MK3 chassis now that R7R8 is mk3 chassis...I would wait for it if you got the R7HEMK3...but make more room 🤣
 
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Sep 20, 2023 at 2:40 PM Post #10,708 of 12,020
I assume the DI20HE will come in the MK3 chassis now that R7R8 is mk3 chassis...I would wait for it if you got the R7HEMK3...but make more room 🤣

Don't forget to pour a slab to bear the weight of a mighty Audio-gd stack. Shelves are for girls! Real men use concrete and granite :P
 

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