New Audio-gd R-7, R-7HE R-8, R-27, R-27HE, R-28 Flagship Resistor Ladder DACs and DAC/amps
Jan 24, 2023 at 3:44 PM Post #9,841 of 11,282
I actually also wonder this question. Is the R27 series connected ACSS internally?
Yes. My understanding is that, the only time you'll see any non-ACSS signal routing/transferring between individual PCBs or separate Audio-gd components is via the standard balanced (voltage domain) XLRs or single-ended RCA connectors.
 
Jan 24, 2023 at 3:54 PM Post #9,842 of 11,282
Hi all…

I am sure this is already in here but thought I’d ask.

What is DAC and Amp in the R27? I assume R8 and Master 9.
Though he markets it as (I would say, parenthetically, more or less) "an R8 with a built-in Master 9", the truth is that the similarly-sized Master 9 is clearly a more fleshed out amp than what is built into the R27.

He has told me that it's essentially a Master 19 amp in the R27RE, so I imagine the new R27 mk2 would be the same.

As far as whether or not the DAC aspect is exactly in line with the R8, or one tick below that, I'm not sure.
 
Jan 24, 2023 at 3:55 PM Post #9,843 of 11,282
Yes. My understanding is that, the only time you'll see any non-ACSS signal routing/transferring between individual PCBs or separate Audio-gd components is via the standard balanced (voltage domain) XLRs or single-ended RCA connectors.
Yeah this is actually very interesting. Im recommending the R27 series to anybody that asks for the best AIO. They all also has clock input. So many good things in that box, oh myyy

Hi all…

I am sure this is already in here but thought I’d ask.

What is DAC and Amp in the R27? I assume R8 and Master 9.

I think R27 MK2 is the most interesting and its a newer edition. But the most expensive is the R27HE which has a better REG psu than R27RE, but big price difference.

@FredA @sajunky @gimmeheadroom @DACLadder @ToddRaymond knows more about it than I do
 
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Jan 24, 2023 at 3:56 PM Post #9,844 of 11,282
Thank you! Trying to decide on an AIO for a 2nd system for reviews.

The R28 is great, but would like something a bit more stout. Considering the R27 MK2 or RE and the Questyle CMA Fifteen.
 
Jan 24, 2023 at 4:05 PM Post #9,845 of 11,282
Thank you! Trying to decide on an AIO for a 2nd system for reviews.

The R28 is great, but would like something a bit more stout. Considering the R27 MK2 or RE and the Questyle CMA Fifteen.
Wow! the R28 is only 1250dollars!

Between R27RE vs R27 MK2, it seems to be PSU difference, I think MK2 have som newer tech. If you have a good power conditioner I think MK2 will be the best choice maybe
 
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Jan 24, 2023 at 4:06 PM Post #9,846 of 11,282
Wow! the R28 is only 1250dollars!
Yeah, it sounds way better than $1250. The DAC is the R1, the amp is the NFB-1, I believe. Fully balanced and wonderful. It isn’t resolving enough for reviewing. It is great for casual listening, though.
 
Jan 24, 2023 at 4:32 PM Post #9,847 of 11,282
Yeah, it sounds way better than $1250. The DAC is the R1, the amp is the NFB-1, I believe. Fully balanced and wonderful. It isn’t resolving enough for reviewing. It is great for casual listening, though.
I am curious of how R1 sounds, but R28 will be hart to beat at that price point.
 
Jan 24, 2023 at 4:33 PM Post #9,848 of 11,282
I am curious of how R1 sounds, but R28 will be hart to beat at that price point.
I agree. I don’t think it can be beat at its price point. That is why I need to go up a step or two.
 
Jan 24, 2023 at 10:44 PM Post #9,849 of 11,282
Wow! the R28 is only 1250dollars!

Between R27RE vs R27 MK2, it seems to be PSU difference, I think MK2 have som newer tech. If you have a good power conditioner I think MK2 will be the best choice maybe
Kingwa just reached out. Says the R27re is better than the MK2 and the one he recommends if not wanting to spend the cash on the HE.

I am getting closer. Need to sell R28 to fund a R27re. Too many things I want.

Kingwa says the delicacy of the sound on the RE is what makes the biggest difference. It will be a 2nd system AIO for reviewing. Not in a huge rush.

I picked a DAC. Went a different direction from Audio-GD. So excited!
 
Jan 25, 2023 at 6:35 AM Post #9,850 of 11,282
Hello I have a R7 2020 (R2R7 with upgrade)

I used computer with USB card with MATRIX ELEMENT H
Do you think that the addition of a GD DI20 DI 20 Audio interface will make a big difference, sound . Because I am already very happy with the result
I used Technics sb 10 speakers, fredy 408 amp and nuforce P9 preamp

Thanks
 
Jan 25, 2023 at 7:36 AM Post #9,851 of 11,282
Hello I have a R7 2020 (R2R7 with upgrade)

I used computer with USB card with MATRIX ELEMENT H
Do you think that the addition of a GD DI20 DI 20 Audio interface will make a big difference, sound . Because I am already very happy with the result
I used Technics sb 10 speakers, fredy 408 amp and nuforce P9 preamp

Thanks
Depends on how good the Element is. I have no idea. Getting the 2021 upgrade for the usb input would likely be an upgrade and you then would not need your Element.

[edit] sorry, bad answer. The element is a fancy usb card., not a ddc. So the answer is yes. Or as said, you could get the 2021 usb input upgrade, which is just a little inferior to a di20he.
 
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Jan 25, 2023 at 7:37 AM Post #9,852 of 11,282
Hello I have a R7 2020 (R2R7 with upgrade)

I used computer with USB card with MATRIX ELEMENT H
Do you think that the addition of a GD DI20 DI 20 Audio interface will make a big difference, sound . Because I am already very happy with the result
I used Technics sb 10 speakers, fredy 408 amp and nuforce P9 preamp

Thanks
I don´t know how to put it, but you will get more music experience from a DI20HE. I tried my R8 without DI20HE, it was good clean satisfying, but it was just a little more music(also warm/analog) to me with DI20HE.

If you have a clock 10Mhz input on the R7 I would definitely say yes, also without this input. Its just nice to know if you can upgrade it further after the DI20/HE.

(Master clock did add the last percentage for me 2-5%)
 
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Jan 25, 2023 at 10:30 AM Post #9,853 of 11,282
I don´t know how to put it, but you will get more music experience from a DI20HE. I tried my R8 without DI20HE, it was good clean satisfying, but it was just a little more music(also warm/analog) to me with DI20HE.

If you have a clock 10Mhz input on the R7 I would definitely say yes, also without this input. Its just nice to know if you can upgrade it further after the DI20/HE.

(Master clock did add the last percentage for me 2-5%)
I only have the OCK2 connected to my DI20HE and I would quantify it as about 5% as well.

It enhances alot of the technicals and isn't an in your face type of improvement. The layering and separation is just phenomal, stage and microdetails improve significantly. Its just masterful and gorgeous. Theres no other word for it I can think of.
 
Jan 25, 2023 at 10:45 AM Post #9,855 of 11,282
Yeah, it sounds way better than $1250. The DAC is the R1, the amp is the NFB-1, I believe. Fully balanced and wonderful. It isn’t resolving enough for reviewing. It is great for casual listening, though.
Casual listening?? How dare you?? :dt880smile:

Seriously though, the R1 and the NFB1 are fantastic. Especially if you've only been exposed to Delta/Sigma DACs your whole life.
 

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