[MrKazador]

If you play them loud enough in a quiet room, they can be heard.

 

[DSchwartz88]

  If you play them loud enough in a quiet room, they can be heard.

Is this something that happened with the addition of the Alpha Pads? Some other sonic changes that happened with the 3.2s? All I know is this didn't happen with my old Mad Dogs w/ Dog Pads. 

 

[mrspeakers]

  Is this something that happened with the addition of the Alpha Pads? Some other sonic changes that happened with the 3.2s? All I know is this didn't happen with my old Mad Dogs w/ Dog Pads. 

 
Hey, sorry.  I believe I answered your querry (check your spam?), but regardless, the isolation should improve slightly with Alpha Pads as they seal better for most people.
 
It's possible your fit is bad, the Alpha Pads change the geometery and maybe you need to adjust a bit more.  To check the fit turn off the music and rub your fingertips together.  If you hear them, your fit is off.  Read the users guide on this, but you may want to try tipping the top of the pad about 10 degrees toward the back, the pads often seal better his way.  If not enough, you might want to bend the headband.  Check youtube for "MrSpeakers Clamp". 
 
If this doesn't fix it, PM me and we'll figure it out...

 

[Im2spec1al]

Hello,
 
are you still working with mad dogs, fine-tuning and such, or have you moved onto the alpha and prime altogether? What Im asking is, will we see updates for the mad dog in the future, or will 3.2 be the final version?

 

[MrSpeakersPeter]

  Hello,
 
are you still working with mad dogs, fine-tuning and such, or have you moved onto the alpha and prime altogether? What Im asking is, will we see updates for the mad dog in the future, or will 3.2 be the final version?

3.2 is the final version of the MadDog line. 

 

[mrspeakers]

  Hello,
 
are you still working with mad dogs, fine-tuning and such, or have you moved onto the alpha and prime altogether? What Im asking is, will we see updates for the mad dog in the future, or will 3.2 be the final version?

Hi... I appreciate the enquiry but we don't pre-announce new or updated products (at least not on purpose). 
 

 

[iamxLn]

I'm hoping for a 3d printed open mspeakers design at some point that takes the mad dog as the base model not the alpha

 

[jamri]

Just ordered the Mad Dogs! Really hoping it matches my new Schiit M/M 2 Uber stack nicely. and blows my Shure SRH-840s out of the water

 

[elessartelconta]

  Just ordered the Mad Dogs! Really hoping it matches my new Schiit M/M 2 Uber stack nicely. and blows my Shure SRH-840s out of the water

Do let us know how they pair. I'm thinking of buying the Mad Dogs too, to pair with my M+M 2U stack.

 

[iamxLn]

Lows lack impact and the highs lack definition, I liked my dogs with the mm because I had nothing else to compare it to, but tubes take the mad dog to a very very noticeable new level. I went to the also very affordable little dot 1+, which I would pick over the vali for the fact you can change the tubes.

 

[jamri]

Will do, elessartelconta!

iamxLn, I am well aware of your results using the Little Dot 1+ instead of the Magni as I have read thru several pages of this thread in the last couple days while deciding on the Mad Dogs ... but let me ask, you were using the Schiit Magni original, correct? From what I've read, the Magni 2 was a huge improvement on the original Magni, and then Uber version is even more powerful ... looks like Schiit ran out of their stock for the down-change Magni, and unfortunately took down the reference page ... but here are the specs on the Magni 2 and Magni 2 Uber:
 
Magni 2 (vs Magni 2 Uber)
Frequency Response: 20Hz-20Khz, -0.1db, 2Hz-200KHz, -3dB
      (same for M2U)
Maximum Power, 16 ohms: 1.8W RMS per channel                      (2.1W)
Maximum Power, 32 ohms: 1.2W RMS per channel                      (1.5W)
Maximum Power, 50 ohms: 1.0W RMS per channel                      (1.2W)
Maximum Power, 300 ohms: 260mW RMS per channel                 (320mW)
Maximum Power, 600 ohms: 130mW RMS per channel
                (160mW)
THD: Less than 0.003%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 1V RMS
                          (Less than 0.002%)
IMD: Less than 0.004%, CCIF
                                                        (Less than 0.003%)
SNR: Greater than 102db, unweighted, referenced to 1V RMS
           (Greater than 104db)
Crosstalk: -70dB, 20 Hz-20KHz
                                                     (same for M2U)
Output Impedance: Less than 0.2 ohms
                                       (same for M2U)
Gain: 1.5 (3db) or 6 (15.6db), selectable via rear switch                    (same for M2U)
Topology: Fully discrete FET/bipolar, constant feedback through audio band, Class AB, DC coupled throughout
          (+ complementary VAS drive)
Protection: Standard failsafe DC power input and muting relay
                    (same for M2U)
Power Supply: “Wall wart” style 8VA 16VAC transformer, regulated +/- 15V rails
with over 4,000uF filter capacitance       (“Wall wart” style 24VA 14VAC transformer, regulated +/- 16V rails, with over 6,000uf filter capacitance)
Power Consumption: 4W
                    (5W)
Size: 5 x 3.5 x 1.25”
                    (same for M2U)
Weight: 1 lb                             (same for M2U)
 
Wish I had the specs for the original Magni available for comparison. Anyways, maybe it really is the sound signature, and not a lack of power for the Magni.... I am intrigued by tube amps, but I will not be trying one for at least a few months.

 

[iamxLn]

I really don't think its a power issue. I wanted the new magni until I got this amp. Now I'm in search for another solid state, I'm hoping it's the Asgard 3. I've also heard the magni being lacking on bass with the he400. The little dot has less power than the magni just for the record, it's only pushing 800w into the dogs. I hope it's fixed with the magni 2u though. Maybe someone else can chime in. I'll try to find the original specs as well.

 

[iamxLn]

Modi

Sampling Rates: 16/44.1 to 24/96, including 24/88.2
Frequency Response: 20Hz-20Khz, -0.1db
Output Level, Maximum: 1.5V RMS
THD: Less than 0.004%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 1.6V RMS
IMD: Less than 0.006%, CCIF
SNR: More than 100db, unweighted, referenced to 1V RMS
Crosstalk: -80dB, 20-20kHz
Output Impedance: 75 ohms
Power Supply: USB powered, 120mA draw
Size WxDxH: 125 x 89 x 32mm, 5 x 3.5 x 1.25”
Weight: 1 lb

Magni

Frequency Response: 20Hz-20Khz, -0.1db, 2Hz-200KHz, -3dB
Maximum Power, 32 ohms: 1.2W
Maximum Power, 50 ohms: 1.0W
Maximum Power, 300 ohms: 260mW
Maximum Power, 600 ohms: 130mW
THD: Less than 0.005%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 1V RMS
IMD: Less than 0.007%, CCIF
SNR: Greater than 100db, unweighted, referenced to 1V RMS
Crosstalk: -70dB, 20 Hz-20KHz
Output Impedance: Less than 0.1 ohms
Gain: 5 (14db)
Topology: Fully discrete FET/bipolar, Class AB, DC coupled throughout
Protection: standard failsafe DC power input and muting relay
Power Supply: “wall wart” style 16VAC transformer, regulated +/- 15V rails
Power Consumption: 4W
Size WxDxH: 125 x 89 x 32mm, 5 x 3.5 x 1.25inches
Weight: 1 lb

 

[elessartelconta]

//Woe is me. I just realised that my username is not elessartelcontar. STUPID KEYBOARD.
 
So, Magni vs. (Magni 2U in parentheses), only listing the differences:
 
Maximum Power, 16 ohms: 1.8W RMS per channel                      (2.1W)
Maximum Power, 32 ohms: 1.2W RMS per channel                      (1.5W)
Maximum Power, 50 ohms: 1.0W RMS per channel                      (1.2W)
Maximum Power, 300 ohms: 260mW RMS per channel                 (320mW)
Maximum Power, 600 ohms: 130mW RMS per channel                (160mW)
THD: Less than 0.005%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 1V RMS                          (Less than 0.002%)
IMD: Less than 0.007%, CCIF                                                        (Less than 0.003%)
SNR: Greater than 100db, unweighted, referenced to 1V RMS           (Greater than 104db)
Output Impedance: Less than 0.1 ohms                                       (Less than 0.2 ohms)
Gain: 5 (14db)                    (1.5 (3db) or 6 (15.6db), selectable via rear switch)
Topology: Fully discrete FET/bipolar, Class AB, DC coupled throughout          (+ complementary VAS drive)
Power Supply: “wall wart” style 16VAC transformer, regulated +/- 15V rails       (“Wall wart” style 24VA 14VAC transformer, regulated +/- 16V rails, with over 6,000uf filter capacitance)
Power Consumption: 4W                    (5W)
 
So from my limited understanding, the following factors would change the sound of the Magni 2U vs. Magni: higher output power, lower THD and IMD, higher SNR, higher impedance.
 
Thoughts?

 

[Mr Rick]

  //Woe is me. I just realised that my username is not elessartelcontar. STUPID KEYBOARD.
 
So, Magni vs. (Magni 2U in parentheses), only listing the differences:
 
Maximum Power, 16 ohms: 1.8W RMS per channel                      (2.1W)
Maximum Power, 32 ohms: 1.2W RMS per channel                      (1.5W)
Maximum Power, 50 ohms: 1.0W RMS per channel                      (1.2W)
Maximum Power, 300 ohms: 260mW RMS per channel                 (320mW)
Maximum Power, 600 ohms: 130mW RMS per channel                (160mW)
THD: Less than 0.005%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 1V RMS                          (Less than 0.002%)
IMD: Less than 0.007%, CCIF                                                        (Less than 0.003%)
SNR: Greater than 100db, unweighted, referenced to 1V RMS           (Greater than 104db)
Output Impedance: Less than 0.1 ohms                                       (Less than 0.2 ohms)
Gain: 5 (14db)                    (1.5 (3db) or 6 (15.6db), selectable via rear switch)
Topology: Fully discrete FET/bipolar, Class AB, DC coupled throughout          (+ complementary VAS drive)
Power Supply: “wall wart” style 16VAC transformer, regulated +/- 15V rails       (“Wall wart” style 24VA 14VAC transformer, regulated +/- 16V rails, with over 6,000uf filter capacitance)
Power Consumption: 4W                    (5W)
 
So from my limited understanding, the following factors would change the sound of the Magni 2U vs. Magni: higher output power, lower THD and IMD, higher SNR, higher impedance.
 
Thoughts?

My thoughts? None of the things you've mentioned will make any audible difference in SQ.