jsmiller58
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Final E tips can be gotten on audio46.com (but size selection is limited)
Don’t know about #2 or #3
#4 on Amazon (shipped from Japan)
Moondrop in-ear monitors Impressions Thread
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Don’t know about #2 or #3
#4 on Amazon (shipped from Japan)
DynamicEars
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sony MH you can buy with The earphone MH755 its pretty cheap, beware for counterfeits though. As for the rest are japanese import, not easy to find but theyre great. you can buy on amazon japan, a bit expensive but they do ship to US
CoiL
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Good that You found something that works for You. Another example how different human ear-anatomy is and how tips selection mean everything.
As for sound, I think SD tips (small in my case) take away tad too much weight and presence of bass for my personal taste.
I settled with stock tips after trying out many different from my tips collection of ~45
I wouldn`t count on it but hope it lasts nicer longer for You
Phosphenetre
100+ Head-Fier
I've been eyeing the Moondrops that are within my $200 budget range (Kanas Pro, Aria, Crescent), looking to pick up a neutral IEM with realistic, natural timbre and presentation. This means not just 'flat' frequency response on a graph, but natural timbre, tone, body and weight to instruments. I work in music production and I'm coming from extremely neutral, calibrated headphones and studio monitors present the sound of instruments exactly as they are in the recording.
Which of the Moondrop IEMs within the $200 mark will give me that in IEM form? Isolation is also pretty important, because I'll probably use these as live performance IEMs as well. Technical aspects like separation and imaging are always important, but neutrality still comes first.
It looks like Moondrop is trying to do exactly this (partly by choosing to follow the Harman target vs diffuse-field), and they all seem to offer great performance for the price, as well.
Which of the Moondrop IEMs within the $200 mark will give me that in IEM form? Isolation is also pretty important, because I'll probably use these as live performance IEMs as well. Technical aspects like separation and imaging are always important, but neutrality still comes first.
It looks like Moondrop is trying to do exactly this (partly by choosing to follow the Harman target vs diffuse-field), and they all seem to offer great performance for the price, as well.
Wow! Finally. So I've been on the hunt for some low/mid priced 'Chi-Fi' IEM's. I've been watching all the 'Hawaii Boy' YouTube videos! I have 3 pairs of higher priced IEM's I use with a WM1Z, Shure 946's, Campfire 'Andromeda', and Jerry Harvey 'Layla'. I enjoy each one of these, and they all have their +-'s, I'd say I use the 846's the most, not strictly on sound but for comfort too.
I started by ordering the DMG's. Didn't like them at all! Very 'smily faced' tuned. boosted lows, recessed mids, and the treble was very uneven and grainy. I sold them, as it takes 3-4 weeks for them to arrive by that time the DM6 video was up, and with the ton of 'hype' they received I figured they would be next. I was actually pretty pumped about these. 3 weeks later I was sorta let down. While they were much improved over the DMG's these suffered from boomy and bloated bass, which mad the mids not quite resolve as they should, also pushed back. The higs were a bit strong for my liking, but worse, my pair were extremely sibilant! To the point I had to listen a really low levels. I did give them the benefit of the doubt though. Changed the cable to a ALO reference 8, 'burned' them in for about 100hrs, and tipped rolled. So it helped a bit...Not to drag on, I just didn't care for their sound signature, fit and comfort were excellent, I also loved the wide soundstage. I ended up selling these too. I have always decided on a headphone and or IEM within a few minutes of listening, I know it's not ideal but in my opinion if you don't like the way they sound within a few minutes, usually nothing will change that that is my take on sound, pretty simple, I have purchased and kept most my gear on this principle.
I decided to give 'Chi-Fi' one more shot with the Kansas Pro's, having read they had a more natural sound stage, I'm also a fan of single dynamic drivers...So, 3 weeks later, I got to be honest I had low hopes, I had seen a few negative video reviews, although I don't pay much attention to them as everyone hears things differently, and have their preferences. I put on a track I had been listening to a lot of that day "White Water" by Pineapple Thief. Within the first 10 seconds I knew I would be keeping these, I was actually stunned with how good they sounded. I'm not the best at descriptions, so...They have a very neutral sound, not flat or dead though, extremely big and wide soundstage without loosing the center image, meaning hard panned guitars sounded very wide, but vocals, snare, bass guitar, and all non panned instruments are right were they should be and not lost. Bass is also very natural, has great dynamics and punch, even dipping great into sub bass rather efficiently. I use "Terminal" by O.S.I fantastic track with great bass, but also a lot of synth that moves back and forth (L to R) Mids are also very rich and smooth, not forward or back, right where they should be, being they don't have boosted mid bass, the 1-3k region sounds very even. Highs are perfect in my book, being I like laid back highs as the 846's have they seem to drop off at maybe 5k all the way to 8k or so, but 10-12k maybe they are boosted a bit giving a nice sparkle without being harsh, which the 846's lack. Absolutely no sibilance!
If I had to compare them with what I own, I'd say they are closest to the Campfire Andro's, obviously I need more listening time, but I think they my be slightly better overall.
Fit and comfort all also great, they have a slightly longer nozzle but don't fell like they are intruding. They are pretty heavy too, slightly more than the Shure and Campfire, but they stay in place rather well. I'm using the stock medium tips as of now, I'll change them up to see how that affects sound signature. The stock cable is very, very good, a ton better than the DM6 and light years better than the DMG"s! Actually is almost identical to the ALO ref 8 I have, the upside though is that it's not stiff like the ALO the ALO also has the worst microphonics of any cable I have. Humanity has never crafted a more microphonic cable! I need to do some research but I'm hoping I can find the same cable with a 4.4 balanced output, oh last thing. They are I believe an 30ohm IEM and need some decent power. My WM1Z has enough at low gain, typically I run it at 50-70 (at the highest) with all my other IEM's the Kansas I seem to be running at 70-90. High gain has plenty of power. These things sound amazing when cranked up! Good ol' dynamic drivers. Sorry for the long winded post, hope it helps some people that may be on the fence. So for $178 give or take, In my book these are a steal and a must. Cheers!
I have 3 pairs of higher priced IEM's I use with a WM1Z, Shure 946's, Campfire 'Andromeda', and Jerry Harvey 'Layla'. I enjoy each one of these, and they all have their +-'s, I'd say I use the 846's the most, not strictly on sound but for comfort too.I started by ordering the DMG's. Didn't like them at all! Very 'smily faced' tuned. boosted lows, recessed mids, and the treble was very uneven and grainy. I sold them, as it takes 3-4 weeks for them to arrive by that time the DM6 video was up, and with the ton of 'hype' they received I figured they would be next. I was actually pretty pumped about these. 3 weeks later I was sorta let down. While they were much improved over the DMG's these suffered from boomy and bloated bass, which mad the mids not quite resolve as they should, also pushed back. The higs were a bit strong for my liking, but worse, my pair were extremely sibilant! To the point I had to listen a really low levels. I did give them the benefit of the doubt though. Changed the cable to a ALO reference 8, 'burned' them in for about 100hrs, and tipped rolled. So it helped a bit...Not to drag on, I just didn't care for their sound signature, fit and comfort were excellent, I also loved the wide soundstage. I ended up selling these too. I have always decided on a headphone and or IEM within a few minutes of listening, I know it's not ideal but in my opinion if you don't like the way they sound within a few minutes, usually nothing will change that that is my take on sound, pretty simple, I have purchased and kept most my gear on this principle.
I decided to give 'Chi-Fi' one more shot with the Kansas Pro's, having read they had a more natural sound stage, I'm also a fan of single dynamic drivers...So, 3 weeks later, I got to be honest I had low hopes, I had seen a few negative video reviews, although I don't pay much attention to them as everyone hears things differently, and have their preferences. I put on a track I had been listening to a lot of that day "White Water" by Pineapple Thief. Within the first 10 seconds I knew I would be keeping these, I was actually stunned with how good they sounded. I'm not the best at descriptions, so...They have a very neutral sound, not flat or dead though, extremely big and wide soundstage without loosing the center image, meaning hard panned guitars sounded very wide, but vocals, snare, bass guitar, and all non panned instruments are right were they should be and not lost. Bass is also very natural, has great dynamics and punch, even dipping great into sub bass rather efficiently. I use "Terminal" by O.S.I fantastic track with great bass, but also a lot of synth that moves back and forth (L to R) Mids are also very rich and smooth, not forward or back, right where they should be, being they don't have boosted mid bass, the 1-3k region sounds very even. Highs are perfect in my book, being I like laid back highs as the 846's have they seem to drop off at maybe 5k all the way to 8k or so, but 10-12k maybe they are boosted a bit giving a nice sparkle without being harsh, which the 846's lack. Absolutely no sibilance!
If I had to compare them with what I own, I'd say they are closest to the Campfire Andro's, obviously I need more listening time, but I think they my be slightly better overall.
Fit and comfort all also great, they have a slightly longer nozzle but don't fell like they are intruding. They are pretty heavy too, slightly more than the Shure and Campfire, but they stay in place rather well. I'm using the stock medium tips as of now, I'll change them up to see how that affects sound signature. The stock cable is very, very good, a ton better than the DM6 and light years better than the DMG"s! Actually is almost identical to the ALO ref 8 I have, the upside though is that it's not stiff like the ALO the ALO also has the worst microphonics of any cable I have. Humanity has never crafted a more microphonic cable! I need to do some research but I'm hoping I can find the same cable with a 4.4 balanced output, oh last thing. They are I believe an 30ohm IEM and need some decent power. My WM1Z has enough at low gain, typically I run it at 50-70 (at the highest) with all my other IEM's the Kansas I seem to be running at 70-90. High gain has plenty of power. These things sound amazing when cranked up! Good ol' dynamic drivers.
Sorry for the long winded post, hope it helps some people that may be on the fence. So for $178 give or take, In my book these are a steal and a must. Cheers!
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I really, really like the cable. Any one know who makes it? Any chance I can order the same one with a 4.4 balanced connector? Thanks!
chickenmoon
1000+ Head-Fier
Cable is made by Lyre Acoustics, there is no online shop in english that sells them unfortunately, not sure about connector options if any.
jsmiller58
Headphoneus Supremus
Just for clarity, you are saying you like the Kanas Pro cable?(implied multiple “?”
)What is the diameter of the Kansas Pro nozzle, I like the stock but wanted to try different tips. The Spinfit CP-100's and 100z's are too small, they have a 4mm diameter. Thanks.
Thanks! Found them on Penon, and Ebay, the Penon site model looks identical, although made by NS Audio.
https://penonaudio.com/ns-audio-iem-cable.html
https://www.ebay.com/i/223395869133...7&rk=1&rkt=3&sd=223395869133&itm=522170090784
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FastAndClean
Previously known as presata
they have 4.4mm on Taobao - https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id...cc7dcc&upsid=1af319a2ed28d216c0fd705080cc7dcc
Thanks. Do they ship to US?
FastAndClean
Previously known as presata
have no idea, i guess the best source is the penon link
Ain't that the truth! Wow. I don't have time to navigate that website.
redrol
Headphoneus Supremus
I too LOVE those Lyre cables. Best cable I've ever tried. I looked long and hard to find a MMCX version but came up blank. Oh well.
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