[14christ]

Moondorp...

That's funny

 

[voicemaster]

Limited Edition!!

 

[saldsald]

Sample? I think some reviewers say that the mid is a little bit thin so male vocal sounds not full. I listened to Tony Bennett, Jamiroquai, Green Day, Dave Matthews, etc and they sounds fine to my ears.

Try maroon 5 songs about jane album, also try joshua bach scottish fantasy, the mid range is quite congested with the Variations. I compared it with NM2+ and the new Topguy and find single DD really handle these songs a lot better.

 

[voicemaster]

Try maroon 5 songs about jane album, also try joshua bach scottish fantasy, the mid range is quite congested with the Variations. I compared it with NM2+ and the new Topguy and find single DD really handle these songs a lot better.

I listened to those songs and I don't find them congested. I compared the Variations with the Aria and much better sound overall in the Variations.

 

[shampoosuicide]

Good to know. Spinfits seem to work for many, I think the CP155 is the one that fits the B2 Dusk? Can anyone confirm?

A shallower tip might help too. I personally really like the Azla Sedna Light Short with the Dusk - they allow for a deep insertion without irritating my ear canal, and the wider bore improves the Dusk's treble extension and presence. Do go one size down from your usual, as they run large.

 

[saldsald]

I listened to those songs and I don't find them congested. I compared the Variations with the Aria and much better sound overall in the Variations.

Maybe I am mid range sensitive and I am quite picky on the larynx presentation. Male vocal is not congested but very slow as if there is something in the singer's throat. I prefer the presentation of NM2+ and topguy.

 

[biostik]

Still looking for a descent IEM for home and commuting. Listening a lot 70,80,90s pop/ rock mostly. I prefer some descent tight slam/ kick when asked for. For now I use a the Final A4000 which I like a lot. For home listening this is fine although I have to boost the bass a few db for my taste. When commuting I have to add a few db more in the bass compartment. Coming to the question, will the Variations be a descent IEM for my needs?

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Good to know. Spinfits seem to work for many, I think the CP155 is the one that fits the B2 Dusk? Can anyone confirm?

Do note CP155 fits to B2/Dusk/Variations, but it alters the sonic resonance due to nozzle length and bore size.

For less alteration: wider bore /longer nozzle CP800, wider bore /shorter nozzle CP360 would work.

The new CP100 plus also does good job for Dusk, it’s a vocal region booster.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Try maroon 5 songs about jane album, also try joshua bach scottish fantasy, the mid range is quite congested with the Variations. I compared it with NM2+ and the new Topguy and find single DD really handle these songs a lot better.

Your definition of congestion may due to the frequency response for which I’d rather say it’s tonality preference.

NM2+ has a plateau style 2kh-4khz upper mid /lower treble spot lights, and Variations is a solo 3khz pinna gain peak spotlight, which could give a dry presentation compared to other approaches. The midrange presentation is more natural and neutral on Variations than V-shaped NM2+ IMO.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Still looking for a descent IEM for home and commuting. Listening a lot 70,80,90s pop/ rock mostly. I prefer some descent tight slam/ kick when asked for. For now I use a the Final A4000 which I like a lot. For home listening this is fine although I have to boost the bass a few db for my taste. When commuting I have to add a few db more in the bass compartment. Coming to the question, will the Variations be a descent IEM for my needs?

Variation has enough sub-bass “ooomph” but when it comes to Wood-bass, you may find it lacking natural presentation, it’s too sub bass focused.

An enjoyable presentation, but not natural. Meanwhile Final A4000 has similar sub-bass focused down slope, the mid-bass presentation is a bit more natural than Variations. But overall it’s a different class (from Class-B to Class-S) jump, you most likely won’t be disappointed.

 

[saldsald]

Your definition of congestion may due to the frequency response for which I’d rather say it’s tonality preference.

NM2+ has a plateau style 2kh-4khz upper mid /lower treble spot lights, and Variations is a solo 3khz pinna gain peak spotlight, which could give a dry presentation compared to other approaches. The midrange presentation is more natural and neutral on Variations than V-shaped NM2+ IMO.

I think to my ears it is more about the speed not the congestion and for male vocal it is really preference but I often hear some congestions with the Variations on mediocre mastered orchestral music, when the strings are playing some middle notes in particular. I will try to play with EQ to hear what is really going on next week.

Also to my ears, NM2+ is not so V shape at all, it is more like bright neutral with strong bass attack.

 

[Strifeff7]

Still looking for a descent IEM for home and commuting. Listening a lot 70,80,90s pop/ rock mostly. I prefer some descent tight slam/ kick when asked for. For now I use a the Final A4000 which I like a lot. For home listening this is fine although I have to boost the bass a few db for my taste. When commuting I have to add a few db more in the bass compartment. Coming to the question, will the Variations be a descent IEM for my needs?

Campfire Honeydew

 

[biostik]

Variation has enough sub-bass “ooomph” but when it comes to Wood-bass, you may find it lacking natural presentation, it’s too sub bass focused.


An enjoyable presentation, but not natural. Meanwhile Final A4000 has similar sub-bass focused down slope, the mid-bass presentation is a bit more natural than Variations. But overall it’s a different class (from Class-B to Class-S) jump, you most likely won’t be disappointed.

Thanks, nice to see these curves together. Difficult to explain for me but what i am missing right now is the authority/ slam when the mid-bass kicks in. For example i had the Fiio FD5 a few days and that kick made me smile and that's what i want. But when I hear you right that's not gonna happen with the Variations right ?

 

[biostik]

Campfire Honeydew

Also had these a few days, to muddy/ dark for my taste and also didn't get these things to fit. Was also checking the Mammoth but I expect the same sound signature as the Honeydew but maybe slight better.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Thanks, nice to see these curves together. Difficult to explain for me but what i am missing right now is the authority/ slam when the mid-bass kicks in. For example i had the Fiio FD5 a few days and that kick made me smile and that's what i want. But when I hear you right that's not gonna happen with the Variations right ?

Variation’s bass is sub-bass focused, so if any mid-bass oriented instruments are on stake, it needs ear tip rolling, or recabling. I found myself comfortable with PW Audio’s Copper 28 V2 for the midbass coming out of Variations.