[OldDude04]

It's noticeable, but there's nothing left to protect the driver if you're removing it on both sides. I wouldn't recommend pulling the earpad side like I did. Now I've got nothing until I switch to a dekoni pad or other Audeze pad.

I've used aftermarket pads for so long I completely forgot that the stock pads had no material at the back. Yes, a person shouldn't remove the paper over the driver on the ear pad side if they are using the stock pads.

 

[theangelboy]

The M1060C has arrived! Got it about an hour ago. They have a slight smell and build is what I expected, just like my M1060. However, I noticed they changed the cable to a straight end instead of the 90 degree one that came with my M1060 and M565. It's a good length, but the new one seems a little more prone to kinks than the older version but hopefully I can get it straightened out.

Initial sound impressions are pretty good, no one part of the frequency response jumps at me as super problematic unlike the M1060 did for me. These have more bass than I was expecting. I'm somewhat of a basshead and there is plenty to satisfy me bone stock. I was under the general impression they wouldn't hit that hard stock without EQ. They do sound somewhat "congested" or "compressed" for lack of better words. I think I remember reading that removing the circles of felt on the back of the cup should help there a little so I will probably start there after more critical listening time. But in order to not get an unbearable hot spot doing said listening, I will do my standard comfort mod on the headstrap first.

I'm planning on modding these more but I would like to keep them closed or at least semi open since I already have a modded M1060 and M1070 and making the Cs fully open at that point seems kind of redundant. But after removing the felt and modding the strap, I'm going to pad roll them before I do anything else and see if more breathable materials help the sound. I really don't care for pleather either in sound or feel.

More disjointed ramblings to come!

 

[theangelboy]

"Quick" update. Did some more listening and some measurements with various combinations of foam/felt. Definitely need the thick felt to use the stock cups, it sounds like a literal echo chamber without it. The foam disks are more subtle but I think I know why they used them. Removing them does indeed make it feel less compressed/congested but also makes the upper-midrange/treble feel more unnatural and uneven, bordering on harsh. However, it sounds more dramatic than the measurements indicated, differing only a db or two in a couple of spots between 300hz-1khz and 6khz-8khz so I think it's some other interaction that's causing this effect.

What's interesting is the bass is basically completely unaffected by any of the back dampening combos I tried, which is opposite of dynamic headphones where the rear damping affects the bass the most and front dampening affects the higher frequencies more. I suspect this difference in behavior makes it harder to tune closed planars since rear dampening can affect the timbre far more than on dynamic headphones and one reason why there are far fewer closed back planars than open.

I also tooks a measurement with the cups removed and it measures fairly similar to my M1070 which isn't that much of a surprise and means the drivers are similar if not identical due to different impedance and efficiency numbers. But I think the M1060C driver is more similar to the M1070 than it is to the M1060 since the measurements are quite different there. Maybe it's all due to the Vegans I have on my M1060 but I doubt it since the deviations are across the entire frequency response without any matching features, really.

Anyway, I ended up settling on leaving the 2 smallest foam disks out. This seems to offer the best balance of less congestion and more natural sound. Hopefully I can get my 3D printer set up (and figure out how to use it... lol) over the long holiday weekend so I can make some pad adaptors and start some pad rolling in the near future.

 

[matbil0]

decided to send them back, great headphones but too heavy for me, I will stuck with my MSR7B.

 

[candideb2]

Anyone could suggest better quality pads and cable for the M565C? An installing guide would also be appreciated as I am new to this and a total newbie and I am afraid to mess things up. I am not satisfied with the stock pads as they don't isolate sound and people next to me hear the music. Thanks in advance.

 

[AJCxZ0]

Anyone could suggest better quality pads and cable for the M565C? An installing guide would also be appreciated as I am new to this and a total newbie and I am afraid to mess things up. I am not satisfied with the stock pads as they don't isolate sound and people next to me hear the music.

This was going to be easy advice for replacing the by carefully peeling off the stock ones and using the glue to stick on the replacements, but at the lat moment you turned this into a different problem!
If the closed M565C with pleather pads are insufficiently isolating when properly fitted on your head* in your listening environment, then you are unlikely to fix this with pads swaps or modifications. You most likely need to replace them with a more isolating headphone, advice on which should be found elsewhere. One easy option is to use an IEM: there are so many great choices on all budgets.

*[For example, the pads resting evenly against a freshly shaved scalp versus unevenly over a wad of tightly curled hair will make all the difference between a very good seal and a bass-losing neighbour-annoying seal.]

 

[candideb2]

This was going to be easy advice for replacing the by carefully peeling off the stock ones and using the glue to stick on the replacements, but at the lat moment you turned this into a different problem!
If the closed M565C with pleather pads are insufficiently isolating when properly fitted on your head* in your listening environment, then you are unlikely to fix this with pads swaps or modifications. You most likely need to replace them with a more isolating headphone, advice on which should be found elsewhere. One easy option is to use an IEM: there are so many great choices on all budgets.

*[For example, the pads resting evenly against a freshly shaved scalp versus unevenly over a wad of tightly curled hair will make all the difference between a very good seal and a bass-losing neighbour-annoying seal.]

So this means that the lack of isolation is inherent in the headphones themselves. I actually made sure that I get a good seal but my friend told me that he could still hear the music leaking. I hope I did not get faulty headphones. Is everyone facing the same situation as I do? I actually could still return them if this is the right thing to do. What do you think? I am only wearing the headphones at home but I just don't like the fact that they are leaking sound, I suspect that this may be due to the wood they use on the cups, it seems that wood doesn't efficiently isolate sound.

 

[AJCxZ0]

So this means that the lack of isolation is inherent in the headphones themselves.

The amount of isolation is a property of the headphone. For example, a good Active Noise Cancelling (ANC) headphone will typically also have good "passive noise cancellation", a.k.a. isolation, whereas a good open planar magnetic headphone will often be as loud on each side of the cup, as if it was just a speaker held in space.

my friend told me that he could still hear the music leaking.

Did your friend put their ear against the cup and correctly claim that they could hear something, or were they in the next room shouting at you to turn down the noise?

I hope I did not get faulty headphones. Is everyone facing the same situation as I do?

Let's work on the assumption that you did not while we solicit everyone's feedback (which may take a while).

I actually could still return them if this is the right thing to do. What do you think?

I think we need to get some more precise and detailed answers to questions about you, your requirements and your environment.

I am only wearing the headphones at home but I just don't like the fact that they are leaking sound

Since enjoying music is a purely subjective experience, what we like is what matters. That said, things which are incidental to the listening experience really shouldn't be a consideration when assessing equipment. Rather than ask why you care about this, perhaps you could explain it in terms of a problem, i.e. how are you identifying and/or measuring an adverse consequence?

I suspect that this may be due to the wood they use on the cups, it seems that wood doesn't efficiently isolate sound.

Another case of degree being confused with an absolute. Wood is just a material, like concrete or paper, which can vary in properties relevant to sound absorption, reflection and scattering depending on multiple factors including the type of wood, its treatment, density, finish, shape, position relative to the driver, coupling, etc. As a category of material for headphone cups, it is generally a good choice. See e.g. the audiovisual pornography which is ZMF, especially the kaleidoscopic Vérité Closed Stabilized.

 

[Dex41]

Hello, first time on the forum in a while. I picked up a pair of M1060 at an estate sale for $12 with a catch; one of the mx jacks was broken. I swapped the jacks for a 2.5 mm female jacks. The right side works perfectly but the left side works intermittently. The wires are good from the jack to the solder point on the membrane—any advice on how to fix the headphones? Or where can I get a replacement planar speaker?

 

[weissglut]

Got a Monolith M1060C headphone and sadly I'm not impressed by it's sound. For me it's a headphone with a dark sound signature. The midrange is not natural at all, vocals and e-guitars are somehow constricted. Not my cup of tea.
Switching to a Denon D5200 is an improvement on all tested songs for me.

 

[theangelboy]

Got a Monolith M1060C headphone and sadly I'm not impressed by it's sound. For me it's a headphone with a dark sound signature. The midrange is not natural at all, vocals and e-guitars are somehow constricted. Not my cup of tea.
Switching to a Denon D5200 is an improvement on all tested songs for me.

I had a similar gripe when I got my set. Taking out 2 or 3 of the foam disks in the cup definitely helps that "constricted" quality. Leave the big felt disk in there, though, it sounds terrible without it. The foam disks aren't glued in or anything so it's very easy (and reversible). It might be worth trying that before sending it back/selling it.

 

[p1zzap1e]

Hi hi. Started looking at these, but one thing for me is that i want to game with them if i buy them. How are the possibilities to add a mic? Would be nice to find a solution with an attached mic to a cable that runs in to an 3,5 end.

 

[x y r]

Monoprice M1060C with Open Back Mod (LOSODO Grills) Measurements:
(MiniDSP EARS. Pur1n's compensation. 500Hz 84dB normalized. All 3 use 1/12 smoothing. Right Only)

Monoprice M1060C with Open Back Mod (green) vs LCD-2 Pre-Fazor Dekoni Velour Pads (red) vs Verum 1 (purple)

Hi WHO23
Would you by any chance still have a graph of the 1060C open mod without EQ? Like just open and no further mods? I'm trying my hand at EQing them myself and am quite happy so far but not being an ear EQ expert, eyes on would help a lot!​

 

[x y r]

So, I just saw them on me in the mirror... I think they're probably best used at home. They look kinda ridiculous..

My man, I seriously dig everything about this picture!!

 

[x y r]

Hi everyone,
After looking at every picture and graph here, I was wondering if someone had a graph of the 1060C open mod without EQ? Like just open and no further mods? I'm trying my hand at EQing them myself and am quite happy so far but not being an ear EQ expert, eyes on would help a lot!