Mod House Audio Tungsten - Planar Magnetic Headphones - Impressions and Discussion
Jul 27, 2023 at 10:27 PM Post #76 of 3,179
I'm hoping to eventually hear comparisons to a lot of the popular TOTL headphones out there.

Would be nice to see it versus Abyss, Susvara, Caldera, Elite, LCD-5, and DCA.
 
Jul 27, 2023 at 10:52 PM Post #77 of 3,179
I'm hoping to eventually hear comparisons to a lot of the popular TOTL headphones out there.

Would be nice to see it versus Abyss, Susvara, Caldera, Elite, LCD-5, and DCA.
I compared it to the Caldara yesterday and from memory I can compare it to the LCD-5 and a few others.

The Caldara is an amazing headphone. It's also about $2k more than the Tungsten. It has a bit more detail and a little tighter bass when compared to the Tungsten. That said, the Tungsten stacks up very well. I feel like it is easier to listen to when compared to the Caldara. The mids on the Caldara are slightly more forward.

Technically the LCD5 is VERY good but comes across a bit dry and boring with some tracks. IMO, unlike the Tungsten the LCD5 does not play well with all genres. With the right music that is well recorded the 5 is a stunning headphone.

I've also heard the Susvara but not enough to really make a comparison. I heard the Elite a while ago and really liked it. From memory, it's got a deeper V signature with substantially more energy in the low end. It's a fun headphone and great for electronic.

In my review, I'll compare it to the DCA Noire.
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 12:01 AM Post #78 of 3,179
I tend to agree with your thoughts on the Caldera.
Lots of folks seem to think they sound incredibly natural, but I personally thought that they were way too forward in the mids with spicy treble.

Thanks for posting. Looking forward to seeing what people end up thinking about these.
 
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Jul 28, 2023 at 7:52 AM Post #79 of 3,179
I tend to agree with your thoughts on the Caldera.
Lots of folks seem to think they sound incredibly natural, but I personally thought that they were way too forward in the mids with spicy treble.

Thanks for posting. Looking forward to seeing what people end up thinking about these.
The Caldera is said to change quite a bit from system to system, so perhaps your chain just doesn't jive well. . .?
 
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Jul 28, 2023 at 8:24 AM Post #80 of 3,179
I tend to agree with your thoughts on the Caldera.
Lots of folks seem to think they sound incredibly natural, but I personally thought that they were way too forward in the mids with spicy treble.

Thanks for posting. Looking forward to seeing what people end up thinking about these.
It depends on what pads you use. ZMF offers many different pad options to tailor the sound to your preference.
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 9:45 AM Post #81 of 3,179
The Caldera is said to change quite a bit from system to system, so perhaps your chain just doesn't jive well. . .?
The owner of the Caldera prefers a tube amp for it. I used the Jot and it was pretty smooth to my ears. It definitely had an energetic treble but I'm not too sensitive to it.
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 10:23 AM Post #82 of 3,179
The owner of the Caldera prefers a tube amp for it. I used the Jot and it was pretty smooth to my ears. It definitely had an energetic treble but I'm not too sensitive to it.
We have the mantle mesh too if the treble is too hot, with the mantle it's too smooth for me but with different systems etc YMMV.
 
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Jul 28, 2023 at 10:25 AM Post #83 of 3,179
I also want to congratulate @Tulon - if there's one person in the industry that I know cares and goes about things the right way it's him. I know how long and how much sweat and tears goes into making something like this and I'm just as excited as the rest of you to get one!
 
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Jul 28, 2023 at 1:32 PM Post #85 of 3,179
@zach915m : Thank you for the kind words and support!

@Hifiearspeakers : The sensitivity is low because the gold we're using for the traces is very thin (and gold is naturally less conductive than silver for example). If we had made the impedance low, similar to LCD-5 or DCA Expanse, the sensitivity would be similar to those. However, because of how we're doing the traces we can't use gold that would be thick enough to get that low in impedance. If we used some thicker silver (as we have in earlier prototypes), the impedance would be in that ballpark (say 20-30 ohms). For example the prototypes I took to NYC earlier this year were identical other than one being 180 ohm gold and the other being about 25 ohm silver.
 
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Jul 28, 2023 at 1:38 PM Post #86 of 3,179
This is going to be an unpopular opinion....

But is anybody else quite happy the sensitivity is as low as it is / impedance is as high as it is?

Selfishly, it feels like the perfect headphone to justify the time and expense of building/buying (pricey) headphone amplifiers 😂

Not every product needs to be accessible for everybody. Certainly one of the fun aspects of the hobby is finding some of the niche products that just work so well for you.
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 1:58 PM Post #87 of 3,179
Selfishly, it feels like the perfect headphone to justify the time and expense of building/buying (pricey) headphone amplifiers 😂
I have a feeling Wells Milo (or any wells) and Tungsten are going to be a match made in heaven :L3000:
 
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Jul 28, 2023 at 3:29 PM Post #88 of 3,179
@Tulon
Apologies for potentially stupid question, but which version (single or double) should scale better with better/more powerful system? Or in different words, which one has the higher potential?
I tend to have some bias towards hard to drive headphones, as they often seem to respond to higher end systems in more interesting ways, so I'm definitely very curious about Tungstens.
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 5:31 PM Post #90 of 3,179
This is going to be an unpopular opinion....

But is anybody else quite happy the sensitivity is as low as it is / impedance is as high as it is?

Selfishly, it feels like the perfect headphone to justify the time and expense of building/buying (pricey) headphone amplifiers 😂

Not every product needs to be accessible for everybody. Certainly one of the fun aspects of the hobby is finding some of the niche products that just work so well for you.
It doesn't bother me at all, honestly. Lots of powerful and well-performing headphone amplifiers out there on the market these days.
 

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