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May 9, 2024 at 11:28 PM Post #361 of 392
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I'm relatively new to Flatheads having abandoned the format with the apple buds years ago. Well time for reevaluation, these LRey DIY buds are phenomenal warm bassy analogue sound signature with that big speaker presentation feels like I'm listening to my vinyl on my living room setup. Just very satisfying. The Aurora super comfortable with amazing subbass bass and clear natural mids.
The W03 Pro are a slight step down with a slight haze over the mids giving a more "tube" like experience but still very satisfying plus the wood build is just beautiful and has mmcx so cable rolling a possibility.
What's the price and where do you buy em from?
 
May 10, 2024 at 2:49 AM Post #362 of 392
I can only imagine the warning is precautionary, perhaps they have seen two pins come loose. I can’t imagine that myself unless someone went nuts with swapping manically but it doesn’t seem like something one would consider out of nowhere.

The two pin connectors they use are nice and firm with a smooth uniform insertion pressure/feel so they seem to be good quality, I don’t believe they are any more susceptible to issues than any other.

That said, I do think the whole cable and warranty thing is a little poorly thought out and excessive ass covering but that doesn’t seem like a reason to right them off without trying them.

I know the WC guys had some bad feelings towards AuR due to lack of tour units and some comments by Nicholas about voting for them in some poll but they are a really good product at competitive prices and good guys to deal with.

I know it is very subjective but I prefer both my AuR over the Solaris 2020 I bought sort of recently and enough to order a third AuR IEM. I am not a fanboy for any brand but I do feel they are worth a try.
Yeah, totally precautionary, as of the many brands I've tried and owned, the Aur has had no connection slippage - cannot say the same for the almost $3k UM Indigo and many other TOTLs for that matter. 2 Pin slippage is an issue for some, but not Aur, which is why it's funny they make a point to mention cable changes :)

I'm a WC regular and I own an Aur Neon Pro and have shared it with some other WCs (none were impressed, except the one who did ask to do a tour after he tried it in Singapore). Aur is a great company and I hope they go far, I have no animosity over some of their questionable choices. In fact, I'm waiting for them to produce the TOTL killer - they have a new quadbrid with BCD, but I need to hear more input from others before I could even entertain the blind buy at this point.
 
May 10, 2024 at 9:04 AM Post #363 of 392
Yeah, totally precautionary, as of the many brands I've tried and owned, the Aur has had no connection slippage - cannot say the same for the almost $3k UM Indigo and many other TOTLs for that matter. 2 Pin slippage is an issue for some, but not Aur, which is why it's funny they make a point to mention cable changes :)

I'm a WC regular and I own an Aur Neon Pro and have shared it with some other WCs (none were impressed, except the one who did ask to do a tour after he tried it in Singapore). Aur is a great company and I hope they go far, I have no animosity over some of their questionable choices. In fact, I'm waiting for them to produce the TOTL killer - they have a new quadbrid with BCD, but I need to hear more input from others before I could even entertain the blind buy at this point.
My assumption is that they simply are very cautious as they are a very small company. Actually they are a two men show only. Likely without any financial reserves and each item sold making their living it could easily ruin their complete business in case they would encounter some serious qc issues. Fortunately that does not seem to be a problem atm as all three IEM I have bought from them were built carefully and are faultless to date... I guess their approach of a very slow growth may appear unusual to some but I can only sympathize with that kind of seriousness, even given the fact that we as the customers take a part of the risk too as shown in the - on paper - not very customer friendly warranty policy. But then there are many other company's out there that offer no better policies but probably rake up significantly higher margins in comparison. In the end we can not have it all....
 
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May 10, 2024 at 9:33 AM Post #364 of 392
Anyone got any experience with a comparison of the mojo 2 and Fiio Q15? Both very similar prices. And both are portable desktop modes
 
May 10, 2024 at 11:32 PM Post #365 of 392
My current stance on EQ with IEMs: I still use EQ, but I'm taking a *very* minimalist approach, focusing primarily on the pinna gain region. Nearly every other part of the frequency spectrum is just flavor, but that pinna gain slope is where an IEM lives or dies.
Can you specify the range in herz you're EQ:ing? My googling resulted in 7.5-8.5 khz in particular but there was variance. My main DAP (Cayin N3Ultra) has EQ band at 8 khz but there's also a PEQ.
 
May 11, 2024 at 12:49 AM Post #366 of 392
Can you specify the range in herz you're EQ:ing? My googling resulted in 7.5-8.5 khz in particular but there was variance. My main DAP (Cayin N3Ultra) has EQ band at 8 khz but there's also a PEQ.
It's the slope rising from mids into treble, typically 1-3kHz, give or take. It's the region in which headphone/earphone designers need to simulate the natural effect of your outer ear (or "pinna"). In my experience, a sense of "forwardness" comes from that slope arriving too soon (x axis), and a sense of "shoutiness" comes from that slope rising too high and/or too steeply (y axis). For me, if you get that right slope right, a headphone will sound "natural." Everything else is pretty much just balance and flavor.
 
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May 11, 2024 at 1:11 AM Post #367 of 392
Here's one of the new stars of the space, the Penon Voltage!

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May 11, 2024 at 6:07 AM Post #368 of 392
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May 11, 2024 at 10:21 PM Post #369 of 392
Every now and again the perfect synergy of iem, cable source and music produces a transcendental moment when u move to a different plane at one with the music. Tonight was such a moment. The Nicehck Himalaya + Xhins bright/dark 8W copper cable the Cayin N3Ultra and the Derek Trucks band with Solomon Burke
just beautiful.

The Nicehck himalaya and cayin N3Ultra are shaping up to be my favourite purchases of 2024 so far neither of which cost an arm or a leg. Midfi personified!
 
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May 12, 2024 at 1:08 PM Post #370 of 392
2) IEM enthusiasts take frequency response graphs very seriously. Most IEMs are valued primarily for their unique FR, so EQing would negate that. Why collect so many IEMs if you can just have a bunch of EQ profiles for a single, very tunable IEM instead?
Well, I'm very new to the entire hobby (joined late 2023), and I use lots of EQ. For a very different reason. My first IEM was the Kinera Freya, I do really like the FR, but after 2 weeks i started EQing because I wanted a few other IEMs. I EQed to different IEMs for their overall sound signature. That's how i got my Moondrop Variations and Kinera Nanna x Z. First trying EQ, then trying them IRL, then actually buying them. I find this method works for me to really make sure I love it. EQ is a great tool.
 
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May 13, 2024 at 9:38 PM Post #373 of 392
Cross-posting from the Watercooler!

I spent the weekend letting the new Penon Voltage burn-in for 100 hrs (tho Penon suggests as much as 200) and figured it would be a good thing to report some first impressions on this soon-to-be-released "flagship" from Penon (it's not really the flagship, which is Impact, but it is the flagship tribrid in the Penon line, now). It has been awhile since Penon released an iem at over a kilobuck (aforementioned Impact, all BA/EST, was over $2000), but this one has arrived with an MSRP of $1199 (meaning those who are on the Penon email list, or those who ask Penon directly, will be offered a nice discount). I got an early shot at a set at the discounted price, which I'm not allowed to reveal, but let's say, you will not be disappointed by it!
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Here, Penon tries and succeeds in stepping up to compete with their brethren by releasing Voltage, a new tribrid with 2xDD, 4xBA and 4xEST in this very crowded price category. I have not given this much listening time yet; I did check-in on it over the burn-in and heard the subtle changes occurring and I think there still are some happening, but it seems to have stabilized, so first impressions! It's a gorgeous, red with gold accented, resin shell that is light and pretty small for 10 drivers. Fit is easy and I find the Penon liqueur orange tips to have a good synergy, but will try others. It comes with a "Penon Obsidian" cable, a 4w Copper/Gold plated-copper cable that itself retails at $149. A very solid cable which I listened to for a couple hours before trying a little cable rolling. Actually, most cables I tried sounded great, and stock does not need to be switched, but I found a particularly good synergies with Penon Renata and EA Code 24c that got me pretty happy; but good on Penon for including a great stock cable!
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The shocker for me arrived when I started really listening to Voltage having heard and owned several other Penons. I listened thru both my L&P P6Pro and Sony NW-WM1Z, and also with both DAPs amped by my ibassso PB5 whose stock interconnect cable I recently switched for a Penon Totem i/c (this produced a beautiful difference from stock, making PB5 sound more punchy and even deepening an already deep soundstage - inexpensive and much recommended for any PB5 owners!!). These sources tend to make a lot of good stuff sound great, some great stuff even epic, and the Voltage, just amazing!!!
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Penon came to compete! This is by far the most mature sound and tuning I've heard from a Penon iem, outclassing every single other of theirs that I've tried as well as some other bigger names (for example, in a few hours, I could tell that I liked Voltage more than the similarly tuned FF MSE by a longshot and I liked MSE!). Now, tuning here is a bit of a moving target, which some of you will (like me) love and some will not (I see you, Todd!) because, yes, there are the dreaded tuning switches! Voltage has 2 switches and each does something specific, so there are 4 potential alterations to the stock (both switches down) tuning, which does remain prevalent throughout regardless of switch position. While I've not heard the Impacts, Voltage has, without question, the best mids I've heard in a Penon and maybe period. The mids seem least affected by the switches, remaining perhaps the star of the show, but actually, it's the overall balance, from deep sub-bass, to mid-bass, upper mids to trebles, everything matters and is the star with the stock switch (down) position offering the most W-shaped sound where switching them both up yields a slightly more U to V shape. Switch 1 increases or reduces bass, and switch 2 does the same for treble. I ran thru all of the switch positions and found that, while not basshead level, with switch 1 up/2 down, the Voltage has terrific, loud but still balanced bass. With the bass switch down and the treble up, you do get an amazing treblehead tuning that still includes nice, tasteful bass. I think I'm preferring the stock setting, but that could change.

In a nutshell, I'm hearing these 10 drivers come together with very impactful sub-bass, clear and forward mids, and massive, detailed, sparkly treble. I'm no treblehead, and bright, sharp treble can be the first thing to kill an iem for me, but here, Penon have executed upper mids and treble as well as I've ever heard it with details for days. It rivals Anni 23 treble to me, but it's overall tuning is more balanced and I prefer Voltage bass, as well. Note weight is thick and wet, but the soundstage is still huge and holographic with airy upper mids and treble again trying to steal the show. The sub-bass here reminds me of the Penon Quattro, but where Quattro has a very odd, but satisfying tuning, Voltage is a true all-arounder that should work with any kind of music. It's a very straightforward tuning that should offend no one and likely to surprise everyone.

We recently had a Watercooler poll that asked for under $2k favorites; this new Voltage would have taken either the Quattro or CFA Black Star off my list. It's uber competitive at its price and sounds like a lot of other TOTL on the market that cost double or triple this price. Nicely done, @Penon, Voltage is your best iem yet, I think! I'm looking forward to digging in deeper with it over the coming weeks, and will be comparing it to Elysian's new Noir when I get that.
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May 14, 2024 at 12:55 PM Post #375 of 392
My new iem crush, The Shanling ME600 have landed first impressions very positive hit all my preferences spot on. Build quality and presentation is very nice and they are beautiful and a very comfortable fit. DUEL DYNAMIC DRIVERS + TRIPLE BA
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