[Coffee Music]

Andrew at Musicteck is known to be always kind enough to extend a discount on these.

Glad to know. I have planned to buy one, now I know where to start.

 

[Newsee]

She said unlimited budget. Let's recommend her a abyss Diana phi tc

Edit: https://en-us.sennheiser.com/sennhe...hpCfw0ahf0hlu7KYKDOsGCEP2EDjruJhoCtLMQAvD_BwE

Better than Empyrean. Pretty sure I won't offend anyone here

You do.
Hey, do not mess up everything here!
1. You recommend an Abyss, and link a Sennheiser HE1?! (Btw on the first picture on the site I thought I see a blood analyzer machine).
But that is a no go, it can not give a velvety planar bass, while it is an electrostat!

2. As far as I know Abyss Diana phy tc does not exist. Either Diana phy or AB-1266 TC. The AB-1266 is neither beautiful nor comfortable. The Diana was not fitting to my head at all.

So no recommendation on any of them from my side.

3. Nobody mentioned unlimited budget. You can check it yourself.

 

[Coffee Music]

I don't have a limited budget.

Jewel did

If the $60,000 HE1 and Empyrean were the same price I would still pick the Empyrean. I haven't heard another headphone that makes all sort of recording quality sounds good. Opposite of the HE1

 

[LCMusicLover]

... just added some more songs like Emma Ruth Rundle "Heaven". Thank you for that again

... which led me to this:



The Nocturnes are Emma Ruth Rundle’s early project/collaboration.

 

[LCMusicLover]

... which led me to this:



The Nocturnes are Emma Ruth Rundle’s early project/collaboration.

And then to this:



Listening on H2g0 ==> Hedd. Hedd are great for atmospheric slowcore.

 

[Jeweltopia]

I was originally going to go for an Abyss 1266 Phi TC but let's be real. I'm a female with a small head. Also prone to headaches sometimes and don't want to sit here with anything straining my dainty neck muscles too much, hahaha.

In all seriousness, I do want an Abyss, but I'm being hopeful that one day a Diana Phi TC will come out. Or that Abyss figures out how to put this wonderful tech into something that doesn't look like a medieval torture device.

Alright you guys, you've convinced me. I'm gonna pull the trigger on the Empyrean. Even with the flaws it had, I've missed it a lot and my amps/dacs have already improved tremendously since I last owned it, so, I am going to hope that what I experienced was a fluke.

 

[legabian34]

She said unlimited budget. Let's recommend her a abyss Diana phi tc

Edit: https://en-us.sennheiser.com/sennhe...hpCfw0ahf0hlu7KYKDOsGCEP2EDjruJhoCtLMQAvD_BwE

Better than Empyrean. Pretty sure I won't offend anyone here

My gravestone will look like that

 

[legabian34]

I was originally going to go for an Abyss 1266 Phi TC but let's be real. I'm a female with a small head. Also prone to headaches sometimes and don't want to sit here with anything straining my dainty neck muscles too much, hahaha.

In all seriousness, I do want an Abyss, but I'm being hopeful that one day a Diana Phi TC will come out. Or that Abyss figures out how to put this wonderful tech into something that doesn't look like a medieval torture device.

Alright you guys, you've convinced me. I'm gonna pull the trigger on the Empyrean. Even with the flaws it had, I've missed it a lot and my amps/dacs have already improved tremendously since I last owned it, so, I am going to hope that what I experienced was a fluke.

Did you try Mysphère 3.2 ? Very weird headphones but it seems that they sound awesome and are very comfortable!


French language sorry

Sorry for off topic

 

[Coffee Music]

My gravestone will look like that

Gravestones are expensive. They should at least look like that.

 

[Arcayne]

Any cable company without free return is just selling snakeoil and also don't believe in themselves.

In Forza's defense, their asking prices are completely fair for the quality you're getting. They make their cables by hand and to the customer's desired specs, so a lot of work goes into making each cable and having lots of customers returning their cables is a big financial concern for such a small company. It's not always easy to sell a B-stock cable when there is so much variability in each cable they make.

I personally don't believe in high-end cables making substantial differences in sound. I don't have golden ears so I won't deny the possibility of others hearing differences that I don't hear. I've got both the Copper (4.4mm) and Silver (XLR4) upgrade cables for my Empyrean, and a Forza Audioworks Noir Mk2 pigtail for converting XLR4 to 6.3mm TRS. Comparing those cables (including the stock Empy cable) is not easy since they all have different terminations, but I've never felt that the stock cable is somehow inferior or even just different in its sound compared to the other cables across a range of different source gear. The Forza pigtail I've got doesn't seem to affect the sound in any way other than the different amp outputs sounding different, while a few cheap pigtails I got from AliExpress had a very noticeable effect on the sound, and not for the better.

So overall, I can only say from my experience and from people I've talked to that Forza Audioworks sells good cables for great pices. If not taking returns is how they keep their prices low, I would say that's not unreasonable at all.

 

[iFi audio]

Rinaro engineers: "These darn basturds at headfi have no idea they are listening to OUR driver"

Folks at Meze didn't hide Rinaro in their press materials, on the contrary

 

[Coffee Music]

In Forza's defense, their asking prices are completely fair for the quality you're getting. They make their cables by hand and to the customer's desired specs, so a lot of work goes into making each cable and having lots of customers returning their cables is a big financial concern for such a small company. It's not always easy to sell a B-stock cable when there is so much variability in each cable they make.

I personally don't believe in high-end cables making substantial differences in sound. I don't have golden ears so I won't deny the possibility of others hearing differences that I don't hear. I've got both the Copper (4.4mm) and Silver (XLR4) upgrade cables for my Empyrean, and a Forza Audioworks Noir Mk2 pigtail for converting XLR4 to 6.3mm TRS. Comparing those cables (including the stock Empy cable) is not easy since they all have different terminations, but I've never felt that the stock cable is somehow inferior or even just different in its sound compared to the other cables across a range of different source gear. The Forza pigtail I've got doesn't seem to affect the sound in any way other than the different amp outputs sounding different, while a few cheap pigtails I got from AliExpress had a very noticeable effect on the sound, and not for the better.

So overall, I can only say from my experience and from people I've talked to that Forza Audioworks sells good cables for great pices. If not taking returns is how they keep their prices low, I would say that's not unreasonable at all.

Magnepan offers their LRS speakers for a 60 day trial.

 

[Arcayne]

Magnepan offers their LRS speakers for a 60 day trial.

That's a much larger company with much more financial headroom to allow (extended) trial periods. Forza Audioworks is a small business, that makes it a lot more complicated.

 

[Coffee Music]

That's a much larger company with much more financial headroom to allow (extended) trial periods. Forza Audioworks is a small business, that makes it a lot more complicated.

Which one stands to lose a lot more financially upon a return?

 

[Arcayne]

Which one stands to lose a lot more financially upon a return?

That depends on the sales numbers, the margin of loss/profit on a returned item and their financial reserves. The financial impact of allowing returns is much greater for small businesses.