[peterinvan]

When a headphone has sibilance it is never because of its cable. It is because of bad or non perfect tuning in high frequencies. Cables cannot and will not affect the frequency response of the headphone. And sibilance will not go away without corrections to the frequency response. You can instead experiment with denser foams or other kind of materials between the transducer and the ears but experimenting with cables is a total waste of time and money. Different cables is only marketing, empty of reality and audio science. The best solution is always a different headphone or EQing. Never count on cables!

My 109s did not settle down till about 200 hours of break in. The drivers need time to acheive optimum flexibility before you try any other tweaks.

 

[alota]

For a 3000 euros headphone sounds really really good. Sorry, what? Only costs 800 euros? Impossible

 

[Quadfather]

My 109s did not settle down till about 200 hours of break in. The drivers need time to acheive optimum flexibility before you try any other tweaks.

People always complain about Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7B sibilance, but balanced, I love them and their treble.

 

[alota]

Honestly i'm listening in single ended and this headphone is unbelievable

 

[Mhog55]

People always complain about Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7B sibilance, but balanced, I love them and their treble.

I didn't find the Msr7b sibilant, the upper end was actually quite nice. Would I find the 109 sibilant in comparison?

 

[peterinvan]

People always complain about Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7B sibilance, but balanced, I love them and their treble.

I am now in the 70+ demographic, and believe that we have our own “harman curve” based on how well our ears are holding up.

Without EQ, the 109s hit the Goldilocks zone for my ears.

For fun, I tried to develop an EQ compensation curve for some of my headphones based on my last audiologist’s report. Gave up and went back to the Meze 109 Pros.

 

[Quadfather]

I didn't find the Msr7b sibilant, the upper end was actually quite nice. Would I find the 109 sibilant in comparison?

Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7B headphones balanced from my Lotoo Paw Gold Touch is amazing. I am still looking at the 109 Pro headphones.

 

[Quadfather]

I am now in the 70+ demographic, and believe that we have our own “harman curve” based on how well our ears are holding up.

Without EQ, the 109s hit the Goldilocks zone for my ears.

For fun, I tried to develop an EQ compensation curve for some of my headphones based on my last audiologist’s report. Gave up and went back to the Meze 109 Pros.

You may be on to something.

 

[Hanyong]

When a headphone has sibilance it is never because of its cable. It is because of bad or non perfect tuning in high frequencies. Cables cannot and will not affect the frequency response of the headphone. And sibilance will not go away without corrections to the frequency response. You can instead experiment with denser foams or other kind of materials between the transducer and the ears but experimenting with cables is a total waste of time and money. Different cables is only marketing, empty of reality and audio science. The best solution is always a different headphone or EQing. Never count on cables!

Disagree, I've tried different cables, some make the earphones sound harsh and some don't.

 

[Mhog55]

Disagree, I've tried different cables, some make the earphones sound harsh and some don't.

Cables typically aren't the solution to battle sibilance. However, if a headphone is only slightly sibilant, a cable swap can suffice. If it's moderately to heavily sibilant, EQ and tuning mods are only solution - but it doesn't always work.

 

[Mhog55]

That being said, cheap cables can make sibilance worse. This has been my experience anyways.

 

[headstef]

Disagree, I've tried different cables, some make the earphones sound harsh and some don't.

Earphones (in-ear headphones) usually have very low impedance. When this impedance varies with frequency (as it does for most headphones), the frequency response is strongly affected by the different output impedances of various amplifiers (headphone outputs). This must be taken into account to avoid misinterpretation as an effect of other causes.

 

[alota]

Stock cable is nothing special but i have no heard any sibilance

 

[CTR640]

I think some of our ears are cursed by being sensitive to sibilance. Source also plays a role, for example: DT880 250ohm+Fiio K5Pro = earbleeds.

The stock cables for the 109 are utterly garbage, they are collecting dust like literally. I might throw them, it sucks for the animals and sea creatures but if they are audiophiles too, free cables for them lol

 

[alota]

I think some of our ears are cursed by being sensitive to sibilance. Source also plays a role, for example: DT880 250ohm+Fiio K5Pro = earbleeds.

The stock cables for the 109 are utterly garbage, they are collecting dust like literally. I might throw them, it sucks for the animals and sea creatures but if they are audiophiles too, free cables for them lol

i am sensitive to sibilance but i have no problems with109. usually i heard immediately when one headphone has this problem. which cable use with meze?