Matrix X-SPDIF 2 - a Singxer SU-1 killer?

[lairpost]

Oh I thought the Matrix can do native DSD 256, no?

up to DSD 512 native via I2S and DSD64(DoP) over all other outputs - http://www.matrix-digi.com/en/specifications/160/index.html

 

[jerick70]

up to DSD 512 native via I2S and DSD64(DoP) over all other outputs - http://www.matrix-digi.com/en/specifications/160/index.html

That's a huge deal in my opinion. The Singxer SU-1 can't do DSD512 along with any other DDC. I just wish I could test them side by side before I buy. No options locally for me.

 

[project86]

Oh I thought the Matrix can do native DSD 256, no?

Only if using I2S. Which people definitely should use if pairing it with the X-Sabre Pro. The limitation I referred to has to do with using coaxial or AES out, which is limited to DSD64.


EDIT, someone beat me to it.

 

[project86]

That's a huge deal in my opinion. The Singxer SU-1 can't do DSD512 along with any other DDC. I just wish I could test them side by side before I buy. No options locally for me.

What are you using as a source? PC? Mac? Linux? I ask because sometimes the higher rates can only be achieved with certain drivers. My music servers running Linux usually only go to DSD128 or DSD256, despite the device in question being able to go higher under other circumstances.

Are you planning on upsampling with Roon or HQPlayer? I assume so as there is not really any native DSD512 outside a few demo tracks. Hopefully your system is powerful enough.

 

[jerick70]

What are you using as a source? PC? Mac? Linux? I ask because sometimes the higher rates can only be achieved with certain drivers. My music servers running Linux usually only go to DSD128 or DSD256, despite the device in question being able to go higher under other circumstances.

Are you planning on upsampling with Roon or HQPlayer? I assume so as there is not really any native DSD512 outside a few demo tracks. Hopefully your system is powerful enough.

I switch between a Windows PC and a RoPieee Roon Bridge with a Smallgreen i5. Works nicely. I have a very powerful PC. I upsample some of my music to DSD512 with XiSRC. Makes a noticeable difference in sound.

 

[project86]

I agree, depends on the DAC sometimes though. Funny, upsampling to DSD128 seems pretty easy. Even my old compact build with an i5-6400T can handle it well. But DSD256 is tougher, and DSD512 requires a fairly beefy CPU.

 

[Chopin75]

I have never listened to DSD512 but it appears my DAC can’t handle 512 well, not many can. LAmpizazor DSD can do if specifically ask for that, but costs >$4000

 

[jerick70]

I have never listened to DSD512 but it appears my DAC can’t handle 512 well, not many can. LAmpizazor DSD can do if specifically ask for that, but costs >$4000

Matrix X-Sabre Pro can do DSD512 and DSD1024. I just picked up a used one for $1000. It sounds amazeballs too. Puts all of the other DACs I've used / owned to shame.

 

[rafabro]

...The Singxer SU-1 can't do DSD512...

Of course it can.

 

[jerick70]

Of course it can.

It looks like it does with a firmware update.

I had one over a year ago and it only did DSD256 at the time. And it didn't look like Singxer was going to offer DSD512. Interesting twist in my search for a DDC.

 

[Whitigir]

Matrix X-Sabre Pro can do DSD512 and DSD1024. I just picked up a used one for $1000. It sounds amazeballs too. Puts all of the other DACs I've used / owned to shame.

Then you need to try lks004 dual es9038pro

Anyways, I need to find a good ddc that has i2s out with the latest Xmos216 and dsd1024....they are not out yet X_X

 

[jerick70]

Then you need to try lks004 dual es9038pro

Anyways, I need to find a good ddc that has i2s out with the latest Xmos216 and dsd1024....they are not out yet X_X

How does the LKS compare to the X-Sabre Pro?

 

[Whitigir]

How does the LKS compare to the X-Sabre Pro?

Not sure, I don’t have X-SABRE Pro. Just saying that the 004 has dual chips and dual analog configuration

 

[project86]

How does the LKS compare to the X-Sabre Pro?

I personally prefer the X-Sabre Pro to the LKS. Even though the LKS seems to have excellent design choices everywhere I look, the resulting sound somehow leaves me a bit cold. Reminds me a lot of my Calyx Femto which is more expensive and very imposing in appearance but not completely satisfying in terms of sonics.

Actually now that I think about it, the LKS 004 sounds very very similar to the Calyx - which could be considered a compliment considering their respective prices. It's just not my favorite sound signature.

 

[jerick70]

I personally prefer the X-Sabre Pro to the LKS. Even though the LKS seems to have excellent design choices everywhere I look, the resulting sound somehow leaves me a bit cold. Reminds me a lot of my Calyx Femto which is more expensive and very imposing in appearance but not completely satisfying in terms of sonics.

Actually now that I think about it, the LKS 004 sounds very very similar to the Calyx - which could be considered a compliment considering their respective prices. It's just not my favorite sound signature.

I didn't like the X-Sabre Pro when I first installed it in my system. I upgraded to the newest firmware and it has made a huge difference. It's the my new reference source. Very smooth and hyper detailed.