Matrix X-SPDIF 2 - a Singxer SU-1 killer?

[Chopin75]

pinkfaun.com I bought the 2.16x.

I see, I know them but unfortunately they don't do DSD, how dumb is that ?? I2S works great with Hi Res as DSD256 usually can only go through I2S. DSD can still go through USB, but sound may be compromised.

 

[lairpost]

Yep, only 192 PCM. I feed a Directstream which by design takes it to 20x DSD so I'm fine with it.

 

[Chopin75]

It may be a copyright issue too with SONY, I think you need to pay more to get native DSD out directly from a transport. . For now DSD - PCM then to DSD again on the PS audio DAC?, just not good enough; USB to I2S however is easier, using DDC converters but then is limited to 2 Channel.

 

[lairpost]

I don't have enough DSD content for it to matter.

 

[project86]

Pinkfaun makes good stuff. Also Wyred4Sound offers several servers with HDMI-formatted I2S outputs - should work with W4S DACs as well as PS Audio (AFAIK).

 

[project86]

Oh, and also the relatively affordable Cayin iDAP-6 has a PS Audio (and others) compatible I2S via HDMI output.

 

[Chopin75]

Has anyone compared the Matrix with Hydra-x which uses different clock (has an internal clock) ?

 

[Chopin75]

Actually the Hydra -z (not x) is latest but still cannot do DSD256 it seems. The matrix may be the best option so far.

 

[project86]

I have had good experiences with the Hydra series in general but never had the chance for direct comparisons. Sorry!

 

[Chopin75]

I have had good experiences with the Hydra series in general but never had the chance for direct comparisons. Sorry!

It appears the hydra Z is great but looks like it can do onlybDSD 128 and then upsample to 512 or higher

 

[Chopin75]

It appears the hydra Z is great but looks like it can do onlybDSD 128 and then upsample to 512 or higher

 

[jerick70]

I'm looking for a I2S to USB converter for my X-Sabre Pro. Does this trump the Singxer SU-1? I've read that the Accusilicon clocks aren't the best. Also I've read that DDCs degrade the signal when converting the DSD. Any thoughts on this?

 

[project86]

I'm looking for a I2S to USB converter for my X-Sabre Pro. Does this trump the Singxer SU-1? I've read that the Accusilicon clocks aren't the best. Also I've read that DDCs degrade the signal when converting the DSD. Any thoughts on this?

I don't know if I'd call it a huge margin, but the X-SPDIF 2 does outperform the Singxer SU-1 by a noticeable amount when using a good external PSU. On stock USB power it's roughly on par with the SU-1.

Not sure who claims the Accusilicon clocks aren't quality.... they are "Femto" clocks and their specs are excellent.

The only issue I run in to with this (and most other) DDCs is when playing DSD, you are typically limited somewhat. Not only by the output (in the case of the Matrix, DSD64) but also the input on whichever DAC you are using. A few devices handle DSD128 via DoP but many are limited to DSD64. Still, not a huge deal in my book.

 

[lairpost]

I'm looking for a I2S to USB converter for my X-Sabre Pro. Does this trump the Singxer SU-1? I've read that the Accusilicon clocks aren't the best. Also I've read that DDCs degrade the signal when converting the DSD. Any thoughts on this?

I have a Matrix X SPIDF 2 for sale, PM if interested.

 

[Chopin75]

I don't know if I'd call it a huge margin, but the X-SPDIF 2 does outperform the Singxer SU-1 by a noticeable amount when using a good external PSU. On stock USB power it's roughly on par with the SU-1.

Not sure who claims the Accusilicon clocks aren't quality.... they are "Femto" clocks and their specs are excellent.

The only issue I run in to with this (and most other) DDCs is when playing DSD, you are typically limited somewhat. Not only by the output (in the case of the Matrix, DSD64) but also the input on whichever DAC you are using. A few devices handle DSD128 via DoP but many are limited to DSD64. Still, not a huge deal in my book.

Oh I thought the Matrix can do native DSD 256, no?