[Mark Up]

Dont worry its nowhere close to beats bass level, actually it's not even more than the HD650 bass. Response on the HD58x is looking sharp

Actually, go back to the graphs posted a few days ago. The HD58X has a bit more sub bass, from 80 hz down to 10 hz. It has the same to sighly less than the HD650 from 80 hz up to 200 hz, the region that makes bass boomy, the extra below 80 hz is clean and what we wanted. Aside from that mild dip from 1.5 khz to 5 khz (which is where we hear the best anyway, so that's ideal) the highs from 5 hz up are generally not too peaked or dipped. It's pretty smooth sailing there, to the top. Nice work.

 

[Beagle]

We will have to hear them. That's the only way to know what's really going on.

 

[project86]

I heard an updated version of the Jubilee.... have to clarify what I'm allowed to say or not say at this point. So I'll leave it at one word for now:

Wow.


More soon, if possible.

 

[Anarion]

I heard an updated version of the Jubilee.... have to clarify what I'm allowed to say or not say at this point. So I'll leave it at one word for now:

Wow.


More soon, if possible.

Sounds promising!

 

[D_4_Dog]

Lol.. such a tease!

I secretly have high high hopes for these those. Fingers crossed huh

 

[cswann1]

Must.......manage......expectations....

 

[Anarion]

Indeed, Massdrop asked for the adjustments to the treble and sub-bass extension before even posting the drop page, and stated the goals in the drop overview. Pretty much everyone was careful to state they had pre-production units, and most said more general statements about the sound acknowledging that a change for more bass extension and less of a treble peak were in the works.

We’re still in communication with Massdrop on a regular basis, and release more information, officially, as we can when we have accurate info to share. So far, everything has been moving along according to plan, but still we have to be careful to disclose specific information only when it is accurate

Thanks again everyone for the vigorous discussions. And let’s remember, what we share is our passion for music and audio, a great common ground to build respectful agreement or debate around.

I didn't know that they had plans to reduce the treble peak right from the start.

 

[Mark Up]

They didn't mention the treble peak as a future goal, but it was obvious to many that it would be an issue since it's in the higher mids to low treble which we are very sensitive to. There is talk of how the treble won't be brighter than the HD650 and the bass will be higher, though if you see it objectively, just the bright green graph without comparison, it still rolls off in the bass and is not bass head, while the treble is very even and balanced without any big spikes. That with the cool look and low impedance and price means it is indeed a headphone for the masses. Those who want a bit less bass and more highs than the HD650 have the HD660S. For even more highs, and less lows, the HD600. Having similar response to those two would make no sense. Having more sub bass level / extension (still rolled off) vs. any other Sennheiser premium headphone - amazing.

 

[Anarion]

The wait for production model reviews is really painful...

 

[WilliamLeonhart]

Well

The wait for production model reviews is really painful...

At this point it's more like waging wars against ourselves. It wows, we can't wait. It doesn't wow, instant regrets all the way.

 

[SilverEars]

They didn't mention the treble peak as a future goal, but it was obvious to many that it would be an issue since it's in the higher mids to low treble which we are very sensitive to. There is talk of how the treble won't be brighter than the HD650 and the bass will be higher, though if you see it objectively, just the bright green graph without comparison, it still rolls off in the bass and is not bass head, while the treble is very even and balanced without any big spikes. That with the cool look and low impedance and price means it is indeed a headphone for the masses. Those who want a bit less bass and more highs than the HD650 have the HD660S. For even more highs, and less lows, the HD600. Having similar response to those two would make no sense. Having more sub bass level / extension (still rolled off) vs. any other Sennheiser premium headphone - amazing.

I personally like the bass rising as reaching the lower bass region, but not significantly. I like the bass on my TH-X00 Ebony due to this. Purple heart seems more significant in comparison.

 

[Strung0ut]

I guess Massdrop is going to dump all the new info on the final production model when the next drop for the 58X happens? Surely that can’t be too far off. Maybe when the current 6XX drop finishes (+500 left, going at roughly 100 per day), but who knows given Massdrops odd timing of the initial drop. Ugh, production started weeks ago, put us out of our speculative misery already...

 

[Tuneslover]

Yeah I've been waiting for MONTHS now but nothing like Christmas in June/July! It'll be worth it, I loved it when the 5 month wait for HD6XX finally arrived (a few weeks before Christmas...an early gift from me to me). I love them.

 

[Anarion]

I guess Massdrop is going to dump all the new info on the final production model when the next drop for the 58X happens?

I'd guess so. I also wonder if the price is going up... If it would end up costing the same as HD 6XX, it would be rather interesting.

 

[annasoh323]

I went on the initial drop for a handful of (not very good) reasons. First, my friend had recently jumped on the HD 6xx drop and was waiting for them to come in (at the time; he has since received them). Second, the price compared to the 6xx snagged me (I'm always looking for ways to artificially feel like I'm getting a good deal). Thirdly, and mainly, I got swept up in the mighty wave of a self-generated hype train. I've been on something of a indie kick in my life. While "indie" is certainly the last label to apply to Sennheiser, the romantic mystery of an unreleased headphone with the legacy of a champion captured my fancy and I jumped in a day later. I tried to forget about it as long as I could but now that we're ~1 month from the advertised shipping date, it's been harder to keep from looking for updates. It seems that there have been some interesting developments since first drop. I'm wondering if I dare read the reviews (when NDA is released) of the production models lest my anticipation become uncontrollable...