It's a public forum The title of the thread is "58X review and MEASUREMENTS" If you dont think measurements useful, idk why you're here. Feel free to add to the discussion If you don't have anything to add, the least you can do is not bother other people who are adding to the conversation The irony of wasting the time to post a comment about being annoyed at reading other comments must have gone over people's heads If you don't think it's science you haven't looked at any of the research I linked... All headphone drivers are limited in response by physics, there is no perfect driver. They are tuned by the manufacturer but that tuning can only do so much, no drivers operate linearly. The only real world solution to get ideal response is to use EQ. If you are more interested in listening to a headphone than listening to the music as it was recorded and produced, thats cool, but you aren't contributing anything to the discussion.