Loxjie P20 Discussion- Starved for information on this thing!

Apr 28, 2019 at 7:48 PM Post #61 of 852
I am sure they are very nice. I have just been looking at 3 pin male to female cables on Amazon and they seem much thinner at the connector.
I really don't need them until I actually buy a DAC, but it appears that I am not happy unless I am researching.:blush:


Shane D
The Geshelli Enog2 has surpassed my expectations by a huge amount but it does not support USB which is not an issue for me .
 
Apr 28, 2019 at 7:56 PM Post #62 of 852
I'm very happy with the P20. Already had a first Gen Woo Wa7 but was curious about going balanced and for 99 bucks figured why not? Have both it and the WA7 connected to a SMSL-SU-8, which makes it very easy to test since it can send audio to both amps at the same time. I got the WA7 used for $400 more than the P20, but to my ears the difference isn't huge. Then again I'm not the most sophisticated listener in terms of detecting and describing subtle differences. For the price I think it's amazing!
 
Apr 28, 2019 at 8:01 PM Post #63 of 852
The Geshelli Enog2 has surpassed my expectations by a huge amount but it does not support USB which is not an issue for me .

I looked hard at that and was even in touch with the lady from there. No USB makes it unusable for me. But I might get one down the road for my computer. I have to keep the volume Really low in the computer to get any volume range with my Vanatoo's. I like the Geshelli product, the price and the staff.

Shane D
 
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Apr 28, 2019 at 8:03 PM Post #64 of 852
I'm very happy with the P20. Already had a first Gen Woo Wa7 but was curious about going balanced and for 99 bucks figured why not? Have both it and the WA7 connected to a SMSL-SU-8, which makes it very easy to test since it can send audio to both amps at the same time. I got the WA7 used for $400 more than the P20, but to my ears the difference isn't huge. Then again I'm not the most sophisticated listener in terms of detecting and describing subtle differences. For the price I think it's amazing!

Can you describe the differences that you hear between them? I always heard the Woo was a very big deal.

Shane D
 
Apr 28, 2019 at 8:41 PM Post #65 of 852
First off, I don't have stock tubes in either. I have the Electroharmonix in the WA7 and Riverstone Audio, 6N3P-E in the P20. Perhaps the WA7 seem a bit more lush and voluptuous, but being alone at the moment, can't do a blinded A/B test and probably have a bias towards wanting the WA7 to sound better (given the price and it being my first OH WOW amp experience). Using 24/96 music and HD820 phones I'm hard pressed to be able to say much. With the Elex maybe a slight nod to the P20 on some songs, but prefer the Wa7 on others. The P20 possibly sounds a little more harsh, but I wouldn't describe it as being harsh and on most songs I don't really notice a difference. With the HE-4XX I find I don't really care for either. Also, the Hugo 2 has been getting almost all my listening time, and it's kind of made clear my other amps aren't in the same league.
 
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Apr 28, 2019 at 8:49 PM Post #66 of 852
First off, I don't have stock tubes in either. I have the Electroharmonix in the WA7 and Riverstone Audio, 6N3P-E in the P20. Perhaps the WA7 seem a bit more lush and voluptuous, but being alone at the moment, can't do a blinded A/B test and probably have a bias towards wanting the WA7 to sound better (given the price and it being my first OH WOW amp experience). Using 24/96 music and HD820 phones I'm hard pressed to be able to say much. With the Elex maybe a slight nod to the P20 on some songs, but prefer the Wa7 on others. The P20 possibly sounds a little more harsh, but I wouldn't describe it as being harsh and on most songs I don't really notice a difference. With the HE-4XX I find I don't really care for either. Also, the Hugo 2 has been getting almost all my listening time, and it's kind of made clear my other amps aren't in the same league.

Wow, you really have some gear!

The HE4XX's aren't doing a thing for me.

Shane D
 
Apr 29, 2019 at 7:35 PM Post #68 of 852
Just tried my K612's with the Loxjie and it sounds very good, these hp's are a bit tough to drive and my volume is at -32 so no issue with the P20 driving them. Bass is nice setting a solid foundation for the music and highs are relatively clean and clear, the mids are ever so slightly forward but the disc Jim Matheos~Away With Words can be a bit forward so I'm not blaming the P20 entirely. Overall I really like it and again am second guessing getting rid of the AKG's...
 
May 1, 2019 at 11:55 AM Post #70 of 852
Let me do a little comparison tonight and get back to you.
 
May 1, 2019 at 12:50 PM Post #71 of 852
Finally got my balanced cable from Hong Kong today. Next hour is checking it out. 20190501_134403.jpg
 
May 1, 2019 at 1:09 PM Post #72 of 852
First note: balanced out on my DAP is the same volume as SE out. That's kind of weird.
DAP to headphone, the difference is quite noticeable.

Must be different with amps.

Shane D
 
May 1, 2019 at 1:28 PM Post #73 of 852
Shane D,
Would you be so kind as to draw out the connections in that cable, if you are able?

Buzz them out with a continuity ohm meter so we can learn how they wired the connectors, 3.5mm jack 4 pole to XLR balanced.

I have seen the wiring diagrams on-line in two different ways.
Thank you in advance.
 
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May 1, 2019 at 1:34 PM Post #74 of 852
Shane D,
Would you be so kind as to draw out the connections in that cable, if you are able?

Buzz them out with a continuity ohm meter so we can learn how they wired the connectors, 3.5mm jack 4 pole to XLR balanced.

I have seen the wiring diagrams on-line in two different ways.
Thank you in advance.

I have no idea how to do that. Would you run each XLR pin with a ring or the section between the rings on the 4.4mm connector?

Shane D
 
May 1, 2019 at 5:04 PM Post #75 of 852
Shane D,
Would you be so kind as to draw out the connections in that cable, if you are able?

Buzz them out with a continuity ohm meter so we can learn how they wired the connectors, 3.5mm jack 4 pole to XLR balanced.

I have seen the wiring diagrams on-line in two different ways.
Thank you in advance.

You got me curious so, here we go. 4.4mm to dual 3pin XLR cable. Here are the pics of what I was measuring:
4.4mm.jpg 3pin.jpg

Matching the 3 pin XLR plug, the pin on the far right is the positive one, the bottom/middle one is the negative and left is the ground.
Of course with the 4.4mm plug you are looking at (from the tip in), L+, L-, R+, R- and ground.

Is this what you were looking for?

Shane D
 
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