Lotoo PAW S1 - Designed for HIFI on the go with Lotoo PAW quality and the first USB DAC-AMP with dual 3.5mm & 4.4mm output
Jan 25, 2021 at 10:21 AM Post #1,576 of 2,329
That was it, UAPP app did the trick in Android.

While I don't use Tidal, just borrowing a login from a friend for test purpose, seems like S1 is being recognized without a problem as MQA enabled device and displays MQA / 4X. Not sure how to correlate that UAPP (just installed it) shows USB DAC as 48k device, played track is MQA 96k/24b, while S1 displays MQA 96k/32b. But nevertheless, S1 used with Tidal desktop app on Win10 and UAPP/Tidal Android app is being recognized as MQA device.

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Jan 25, 2021 at 11:34 AM Post #1,578 of 2,329
@twister6 My S1 always shows a 32 bit rate when using UAPP, even prior to the the MQA update, regardless of what's being played. Weird.

AFAIK 32bit is depth of queue on interface... When data is 16, 24 bit or so, 0s added to fill up the gap.
 
Jan 25, 2021 at 11:35 AM Post #1,579 of 2,329
For those looking for angled usb c to usb c cables..

xduoo xc-12 (store I bought it from had only 1 in stock)

Wooaudio custom cable (took too long to arrive because I'm located in South East Asia)

Those two are the only angled usb c cables I could find and buy.

Having an angled connector really helps getting the cable out of the way...
 

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Jan 26, 2021 at 4:33 AM Post #1,581 of 2,329
just updated to fw09. when this unit plays with iphone 12, it can't change volume as the sound was already very loud from the unit when low/high gain was selected, as well as effect selected too.
also, volume was normal when nothing gain or effect was selected.
using with android phone has no issue.

am i the only 1?
 
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Jan 26, 2021 at 6:29 AM Post #1,582 of 2,329
just updated to fw09. when this unit plays with iphone 12, it can't change volume as the sound was already very loud from the unit when low/high gain was selected, as well as effect selected too.
also, volume was normal when nothing gain or effect was selected.
using with android phone has no issue.

am i the only 1?
I’m getting noticeably higher volumes and increased resolution after updating, at least while using 4.4 balanced. Everything else is as before. I don’t have a need for mqa but the fw update seems to have refined the S1 further. Excellent!
 
Jan 26, 2021 at 8:19 AM Post #1,583 of 2,329
just updated to fw09. when this unit plays with iphone 12, it can't change volume as the sound was already very loud from the unit when low/high gain was selected, as well as effect selected too.
also, volume was normal when nothing gain or effect was selected.
using with android phone has no issue.

am i the only 1?
I have no issues on my iPhone 12 Pro. Volume is also the exact same number wise to what I used prior to the update.
 
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Jan 26, 2021 at 7:09 PM Post #1,587 of 2,329
Any issues on 1.0.0.9 ? Bugs? I just updated to it, but personally haven't encountered any....
MQA feature doesn't seem to work properly on my android phones and DAP through the native Tidal app. Tried playing tracks of different sample rates but S1 shows the same sample rate for all of them and doesn't show MQA/OSF.

UAPP works swell, though.

Downside is cannot use Tidal offline.
 
Jan 26, 2021 at 7:14 PM Post #1,588 of 2,329
TIDAL iOS APP (HI-FI), MASTER quality song
S1 before upgrading (1.0.0.7): PCM 88.2K/32b
S1 after upgrading (1.0.0.9): MQA 44.1K/32b, OSF/4X
Which one output is better??
The latter should be better because I assume the track you were playing is streamed at 44.1K sample rate.

Before the update, all Tidal Masters tracks would've been re-sampled to 88.2K or 96K- regardless of their original sample rate.

From my understanding, now Tidal Masters plays in the original sample rate.
 
Jan 26, 2021 at 7:37 PM Post #1,589 of 2,329
I hear a slight cut at the beginning of each MQA track (with UAPP and with the Tidal app on my PC)...
 
Jan 26, 2021 at 8:08 PM Post #1,590 of 2,329
This seems to occur when there is a bitrate change between MQA tracks.
Anyone experienced that?

For the rest, anything seems to run pretty well with this new firmware 1.0.0.9
 

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