Lotoo PAW S1 - Designed for HIFI on the go with Lotoo PAW quality and the first USB DAC-AMP with dual 3.5mm & 4.4mm output
Jan 27, 2021 at 11:45 AM Post #1,606 of 2,329
Fair enough, I know UAPP does miracles with those zeros... But that wouldn't explain this on Win10 Qobuz app, wasapi exclusive:

Afraid I'm not a Qobuz user but sure one will chime in shortly. I'd imagine it's either something to do with the device exclusivity settings, or if those are setup correctly, then maybe Quobuz also sprinkles some additional magical zeros á la UAPP.
 
Jan 27, 2021 at 12:37 PM Post #1,607 of 2,329
Afraid I'm not a Qobuz user but sure one will chime in shortly. I'd imagine it's either something to do with the device exclusivity settings, or if those are setup correctly, then maybe Quobuz also sprinkles some additional magical zeros á la UAPP.
The 32-bit vs. 24 vs 16 isn't related to the source from Qobuz, it's related to how data moves from your computer to the Lotoo. On my system, the sampling rate changes with the source but it always says 32-bit.

Qobuz files are fairly pristine. Tidal may or may not do something with its files because of how it supports MQA. I have read elsewhere that MQA applies some type of equalization to get compression.
 
Jan 27, 2021 at 1:32 PM Post #1,608 of 2,329
From my understanding, the 32b output has to do with bit padding and lossless volume control (the volume is exclusively controlled by the S1 on both UAPP and Windows players). This is with PCM. I've not tested MQA yet. Need to update mine to the newest firmware.
 
Jan 27, 2021 at 8:45 PM Post #1,609 of 2,329
I'm very surprised, didn't expect this coming.
Got a new Realme 7 Pro, what a phone, even if you have more expensive one, just buy it, incredible value 🙂
But guess what, S1 doesn't work,
W11 Topaz, Cobalt, Hipdac, all work great.
Anything I need to know??
I dont think I understood you correctly it works with like cobalt,hipdac etc but not with the s1?!
 
Jan 28, 2021 at 2:31 AM Post #1,610 of 2,329
Jan 28, 2021 at 12:52 PM Post #1,612 of 2,329
It seems to me the sound has improved with the latest firmware 1.0.0.10
Bass goes deeper and the clarity and separation is better overall. Very pleased especially with Netflix.
You're not alone. I too have the impression that dynamics kinda improved. I'm finding a bit better separation, slightly more musical sound with my LZ A7. And this is using the 3.5mm jack. Haven't tried balanced yet. I'm still waiting for a cable.
 
Jan 28, 2021 at 1:10 PM Post #1,613 of 2,329
The headphone amp on my Dangerous Source was never well suited to sensitive iems but I found it fine with the iFi IEMatch, but this is now my sole method of iem listening*.

Shure SE846 and FiiO LC4.4C cable with Lotoo PAW S1.jpg


*With the iems in my ears, that is.
 
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Jan 28, 2021 at 7:33 PM Post #1,615 of 2,329
Jan 28, 2021 at 7:53 PM Post #1,616 of 2,329
Any suggestions for a cheap source for use with S1 that has streaming capability? Just after an alternative to draining my phone battery more than I need to.
 
Jan 29, 2021 at 3:21 AM Post #1,618 of 2,329
Any suggestions for a cheap source for use with S1 that has streaming capability? Just after an alternative to draining my phone battery more than I need to.
A used old phone. IOS will give you bitperfect usb audio, Android will run cheaper.
 
Jan 29, 2021 at 4:13 AM Post #1,619 of 2,329
Jan 29, 2021 at 5:48 AM Post #1,620 of 2,329
Yeah, I was thinking of picking up an iPod touch as I mainly use Amazon for streaming now

I did even wonder if Amazon Fire Tablets handle USB audio
 

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