Little Dot Tube Amps: Vacuum Tube Rolling Guide
Apr 11, 2015 at 4:05 PM Post #9,527 of 13,438
  My Lorenz were really dirty under the cover though.

 
With what?
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Apr 12, 2015 at 11:51 AM Post #9,531 of 13,438
I recently rolled these Mullard 6080's in my new mkvi+. And they were very noisy, but dead quiet in the mkivse which isn't even made to run those type of tubes. I don't get it
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It's these tubes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311154206725?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

 
Apr 12, 2015 at 12:24 PM Post #9,532 of 13,438
  I recently rolled these Mullard 6080's in my new mkvi+. And they were very noisy, but dead quiet in the mkivse which isn't even made to run those type of tubes. I don't get it
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It's these tubes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311154206725?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 

 
I would say the MK4 runs 6AS7-type tubes rather "gently". These tubes were designed to run at a significantly higher plate voltage than the MK4 can provide. And therefore, in your MK4, less than perfect tubes can often sound very good. On the other hand, your MK6, which is biasing them them properly, is running them "harder". And typically, tubes that are run hard tend to reveal their imperfections...
 
However, that said, the noise you are hearing could very well not be due to any imperfections. It is my experience that these tubes often quiet down after 50 or more hours. So I would suggest that you don't give up on using them in your MK6 quite yet. Give them some time.
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 1:23 PM Post #9,534 of 13,438
   
I would say the MK4 runs 6AS7-type tubes rather "gently". These tubes were designed to run at a significantly higher plate voltage than the MK4 can provide. And therefore, in your MK4, less than perfect tubes can often sound very good. On the other hand, your MK6, which is biasing them them properly, is running them "harder". And typically, tubes that are run hard tend to reveal their imperfections...
 
However, that said, the noise you are hearing could very well not be due to any imperfections. It is my experience that these tubes often quiet down after 50 or more hours. So I would suggest that you don't give up on using them in your MK6 quite yet. Give them some time.

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks gibosi =)
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 1:34 PM Post #9,535 of 13,438
  Hi MisterX,
 
Could you comment on the difference in sound between the MKIVSE and the MKVI?
 
Also, how does the MKIV sound with the 6080 tubes?

I'd say that they sound very similar when using the SE output on the vi+, if you can find a way to get rid of the noise from that output. But as soon as I had re-terminated my cans to balanced 4-pin XLR the difference was huge. Much bigger soundstage and tighter bass and detail. Everything is better really.
 
The mkivse sounds very good with the Mullard 6080's. A bit more tube sounding and warmer than the 6H5C's I got. Good match with the C3GS's.
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 2:05 PM Post #9,536 of 13,438
  I recently rolled these Mullard 6080's in my new mkvi+. And they were very noisy, but dead quiet in the mkivse which isn't even made to run those type of tubes. I don't get it
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It's these tubes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311154206725?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

Somebody on the Woo thread tried those from Langrex and his were noisy to
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 2:27 PM Post #9,538 of 13,438
 
  Somebody on the Woo thread tried those from Langrex and his were noisy to

Hm, interesting. It's to bad that they're noisy cause I like the sound signature. I guess I have to give them more time like gibosi advised. 

Guy im refering to is BADAS in Woo thread i know he has had them for 1 month or so ask him if he has many hours on them.he's on this page                                                                                                                     http://www.head-fi.org/t/428570/woo-audio-amp-owner-unite/33345
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 2:57 PM Post #9,539 of 13,438
  Guy im refering to is BADAS in Woo thread i know he has had them for 1 month or so ask him if he has many hours on them.he's on this page                                                                                                                     http://www.head-fi.org/t/428570/woo-audio-amp-owner-unite/33345

Thanks!
Though the ones he has does look different than mine. Mine doesn't have the Mullard "shield" branding. It looks like they're selling different tubes on ebay vs their website
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 Or maybe it's just the branding on the tubes that's different. They're also £5 cheaper on their website, lol.
 
Apr 12, 2015 at 3:09 PM Post #9,540 of 13,438
  Thanks!
Though the ones he has does look different than mine. Mine doesn't have the Mullard "shield" branding. It looks like they're selling different tubes on ebay vs their website
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 Or maybe it's just the branding on the tubes that's different. They're also £5 cheaper on their website, lol.

 
Mullard/Philips made these beginning in the 1950s and on into the 1970s, so there is some variation over time, and as one would expect, there are also sonic differences.
 

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